Perpetual Motion

Since so many here are talking about Perpetual Motion, I think I would have to share my point of view on this controversial topic.

Since I was 17 years old, I have had this very clear idea of how to build a perpetual motion machine. I thought about using permanent magnets.

This idea just came to me, and it showed me, how to build it. I made the drawings, and such, but never followed it.

I think I would like to simplify this idea. I have written an article on it, but due to som typos and spelling errors, (such as c = 300.000 km7hour instead of seconds), it might be difficult to read.

Though I would like to share my knowedge on this field.

My point is, basically, that perpetual motion can indeed come without breaking the laws.

In order to make this, we have to understand, first how the machine works - secondly we have to look at what it does.

In this way, we can look at how our universe is.



This is how the universe works:

The mechanisms in this is made in such a way, that they are instantanously brought into the same position over and over again.

http://forum.physorg.com/index.php?showtop...=0&#entry111720

This explains the idea more clearly. However, I made some typos and wrote km instead of seconds.

The problem with PhysOrg is when you try and insert an image it shows up really small.

Important notice:

The above reference refers to an article I wrote, where I wrote c = 300.000 km/hour, this is wrong, it was a typo as I am used to write km/hour instead of km/second.

Sorry for this.


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The above is NOT to be patentet. That is, this information cannot be patented, and I will do everything I can, in order to close the opportunity for anyone to have a patent on a perpetual motion machine. Therefore, please notice, that this information has been published on this and other websites, and I will continue to do so.

God personally told me not to make a patent on this machine - so should anyone neither!

This post has been edited by dktekno on Aug 19 2006, 11:11 PM

That explains a lot!

Krreagan

WARNING!!!

I stumbled over this thread as DKTekno crosslinked to it in another forum.
Link here: Skum.dk
DKtekno is not normal, he suffers from Aspergers Syndrom ( Link ) and advocates himself as "Homo sapiens aspergus"

We others call him a debate-troll in need of a professional help.

Terracide - A friendly warning....

WARNING!

Terracide usually comes and mock on me, over and over again, and he seems to search the web for the name "dktekno" for the one and sole purpose of finding a post where he can mock me down.

Just because I have Aspergers Syndrome doesn't mean I am stupid.

- heh, even Albert Einstein had Aspergers Syndrome, experts say.

- Terracide - jeg synes du skal stoppe med at rakke ned på mig hele tiden, og gå fra forum til forum.

Har du ikke tid til andet, end at søge på google.com efter "dktekno"?

Eller har du bare en eller anden automatisk refleks der siger dig, at hvis en post-starter er "dktekno" så skal du automatisk indsætte en nedværdigende bemærkning?

This post has been edited by dktekno on Aug 21 2006, 08:19 AM

WARNING!!!

Both DKTEKNO and TERRACIDE are known on the Skum.dk community to be very problematic and troubled users.
As such, anything which they may utter in one form or another should be thoroughly researched before being accepted as a truth.
Not only is Terracide a heavy troll, but he also got banned from the community for racism.

But that doesnt really mean he's wrong about dktekno. That dude is just crazy, man.

Oh, and DKTekno, we all thought we could construct a perpetual motion machine when we were kids - It's just that only the craziest of us actually thought we could do it by the time we understood the laws of physics.

Moderators, please conserve this topic. It has great sentimental value for the likes of me.

Please - if you want to experiment with my theory - go on.

In order to view the drawings - right click the image, and view it, or click the source of the image. Then you get a much more clearer and bigger image of it.

I am not crazy!

My theory is easy to prove. The reason I published it was because:

1. I knew that someday, someone would figure out this too. If I wanted to provide free energy for the population of the earth, I had to publish my ideas in order to stop people from patenting it. Today I knew that a company was experimenting with a perpetual motion machine.

2. If I publish my ideas, everybody who has the time and energy in order to build this machine, can do it. I am, yes, I admit it, too lazy to do it myself. But I did provide the drawings.

You can make this construction at home for no cost.

I understand the laws of physics and have experimented with it. My theory does not break the laws of physics. It circumvents them.


This post has been edited by dktekno on Aug 21 2006, 09:33 AM

I'm totally with you dktekno. In that I too have some lost puppy following me around this forum hounding me with insults. Krreagan.

Oh and Rada the truth is that it is still up in the air about PPMs. It is still iffy because it is still unsure whether a PPM will actually break any laws of thermal dynamics also it isn't even sure if such laws a sound.

There are companies out there playing around trying to create PMMs.

This post has been edited by Precursor562 on Aug 21 2006, 09:39 AM

Precursor562,
I was not commenting the validity of dktekno's device at all.

I'm just saying that he has the burden of proof, as he is the one claiming something. Also, I am merely indicating that he is insane. And so is Terracide. They are both very disturbed people.

Thats the most poorly illustrated perpetual motion schematic I have ever seen.
F.ex: A Spring... Unreleased Spring. Aha... how very vague.

There are soo many factors in your.. device that you've failed to accommodate for.
What exactly is supposed to compress this spring? The motion of the stick? Whats the unillustrated intricacies of that mechanism?
What steers the magnet? Where does that energy come from?
How can the spring push the stick without rotational movement of the stick stopping?
I could go on, but its too silly...

Im sorry, but a perpetual motion machine made from springs and sticks is just laughable.



This thread reminds me of a UFO board I once stumbled upon.
One guy was drawning circles on martian satalite pictures, claiming he could see the small aliens and the caves in which they lived, and how Mars was actually green.
That was pretty funny, and it was even more funny that most people on that board took him seriously.
Poor guys...

Insane/genius. Two sides of the same coin.

This may be a stupid question but there is something I'm not understanding about Perpetual motion being impossible and electricity. On many sites for science definitions I find one entry say Perpetual Motion is impossible. Same site different entry I find that it's impossible to stop it which is it?

"The term perpetual motion, taken literally, refers to movement that goes on forever. However, the term more commonly refers to any device or system that perpetually (indefinitely) produces more energy than it consumes, resulting in a net output of energy for indefinite time. The law of conservation of energy, which states that energy cannot be created or destroyed."

"Absolute zero physically possesses quantum mechanical zero-point energy. Having a limited temperature has several thermodynamic consequences; for example, at absolute zero all molecular motion does not cease but does not have enough energy for transference to other systems, it is therefore correct to say that at 0 kelvin molecular energy is minimal."

If molecules cannot be stopped from moving how can perpetual motion be impossible? Let alone exist without perpetual motion?

If electrons are converted to light in my room here that means the electrons need to be replaced in the system supplying them? How do you turn mechanical energy into anything without physical contact? So the energy used to rotate actually never transfers to anything but the rotation. Can't turn mechanical energy into anything without physically touching another body. A generator will produce power until mechanical failure or rotation stops. The magnet will just keep going so the energy is not coming from magnets either. So where are the extra electrons coming from to keep this light lit? Where ever they come from obviously its infinite.

"Ere many generations pass, our machinery will be driven by a power obtainable at any point of the universe. This idea is not novel. Men have been led to it long ago by instinct or reason; it has been expressed in many ways, and in many places, in the history of old and new. We find it in the delightful myth of Antheus, who derives power from the earth; we find it among the subtle speculations of one of your splendid mathematicians and in many hints and statements of thinkers of the present time. Throughout space there is energy. Is this energy static or kinetic! If static, our hopes are in vain; if kinetic - and this we know it is, for certain - then it is a mere question of time when men will succeed in attaching their machinery to the very wheel work of Nature.
-"Experiments with alternate currents of high potential and high frequency" (February 1892)

When you can make a machine that can overcome gravity, the mother of friction, you can make a perpetual motion machine. Know that magnetism is frictionless. The truth is I have in the making, just looking for investors. Can you recommend me to someone willing to invest? PCIERD-DOST, Philippines, is committing a crime against humanity for deliberately delaying processing request for financial assistance to construct conceived machine. is hurting more humanity for denying whatever benefits – free energy, clean free energy that can be derived from the machine.

John Christy had demonstrated it can be done. I would have, too, earlier, but PCIERD-DOST deliberately delay.


Jsaldea12

8.31.09

Sorry to reply in an old thread, but, some stilly questions:

I once set up two magnets, a circular (ring) magnet and a square magnet next two each other so that the ring magnet continuously oscillated back and forth. I could set this up and it would oscliiate for good 30mins to 1 hour before it would somehow always slightly dislodge itself, fall, and stop moving.

I have always wondered, whether any energy can be extracted from such system, or would the friction forces of trying to extract energy from said system be much greater than the energy output?

Also would the magnets magnetic poles eventually switch so that the two magnets would attract each other?


Edit2: the magnets where set up so as the ring magnet would 'bob' up and down by the effects of gravity and the repelling force of the other magnet.

This post has been edited by dakfe09 on Aug 31 2009, 08:10 AM