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> One particle, Two places., How can a single particle exist as twins
fusudocmd
Posted: Jul 26 2006, 09:34 AM


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I am a new member here, and this is my first post, I was watching, "What the Bleep do we know?" and there was a topic that really made me think about different dimensions, not the dimensions of space and time, although space and time will come up later in my train of thought. Instead, a dimension like another reality, where this world could be a world with lets say dinosaurs at the beginning of their existence.

When I heard that a single particle could be at more than one place at one time, as if it fluttered through space and existed in two places, not separating and becoming two particles, but being the same particle over here as is over there. I started wondering how such an event could be possible. I, being a person of religion and believing that True religion never contradicts True science, I came to a thought that made some since.

Is it possible that all the particles that exist, exist in multiple dimensions and the particles in the other dimensions just might appear in another due to variable events that could be caused by scientific methods used in testing, so that it would appear to be in two places at once, but really it is the same particle, just in a different dimension leaking through the cracks of time and space to appear in another dimension? The same particle, but a different existence of that particle.

To move on to the next thought I had which included space and time, what if when the big bang occurred, it was actually the separation of the original particle, making a clone of itself, and the cause of such an event would cause a dimensional shift, creating a distinct and separate dimension to become whatever it may due to its own events without outside effects of other dimensions. like a piece of paper being created into a clone of the original but yet still close enough to effect each other by the dimensions of space and time of one existence of particles coming in contact with the dimensions of space and time of the other, like the two papers being bend and folded while still being fairly close to each other due to the short time of the separation.

Of course this thought of mine is a bit amateur in the fact that I am only 22 with no college experience to learn the fundamentals of quantum physics, but I just thought I would put it out there and try to get some feedback.
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Zephir
Posted: Jul 26 2006, 08:44 PM


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QUOTE (fusudocmd @ Jul 26 2006, 12:34 PM)
...so that it would appear to be in two places at once, but really it is the same particle...
By Aether Wave theory (AWT) the whole situation can be even a bit simpler: You can imagine the particles like wave pockets spreading in inhomogeneous inertial environment, the density of which is undulating independently to a large extent.

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A you probably know, the waves are preferring more dense environment for it's spreading, so you can imagine, some particle wave is slitted into smaller by splitting of more dense areas of vacuum, which can reconnect itself more lately again under formation of the original particle.

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Such concept can be visualized using easily well known lava lamp as the direct analogy: Try to bring up, we'll create a standing waves on the surface of some oil bubble in the lava lamp. If we separate such undulations bubble into smaller ones, the energy of surface doesn't disappears and whenever the tiny bubble are mixed together, they will restore the original big undulating oily bubble.

Is such concept clear for you?


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Ron
Posted: Jul 26 2006, 11:14 PM


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Hi Fusu, Zeph,
Firstly, Fusu, I really appreciate your quote "I, being a person of religion and believing that True religion never contradicts True science". Too many people seem to immediately assume science is a strictly atheist if not agnostic. I personally believe the two, science and religion, have to coexist to truely fathom our universe from an individual's point of view if only to recognise that religion or metaphysics are too often ignored paths, which, since these paths exist to some, ignores an enourmous opinion base.
IMO, the relatively immature mathematical multi-dimentional concepts have alot in common with theological constructs which, in their own way, advocate other dimensions which are justified through 'faith', typically dismissed for it's inherent seemingly baseless trump. If both sides could agree on certain scientific concepts and re-evaluate other, less substantiated claims on both sides, avoiding any "Deux ex machina" from either discipline, I believe alot of common ground (at least in recognizing the usual impasse) could be addressed from both views, equally qualified through a mutual acceptance of 'metaphysical' reasoning.
Sorry if this seems psycho-babble, but I really feel theoretical physics is the most probable place to reconcile some of these difficult or even impossible to prove insights on the workings of our universe.
Thanks for listening (if you made it this far!)
Experimental prove of ce.scientific concepts can only be invoked from a well defined hypothesis, which need not be restricted to pre-existing scientific acceptance.
I don't believe the scientific method loses it's well established power through this type of integration of ideals.
Any criticism or downright blasting of these thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
Take care,
Ron
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Nick
Posted: Aug 12 2006, 11:51 PM


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Its not that a single particle exists in more than one place. It is that the particle is also a wave spread out over space. There is a difference.
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