is space-time, a psychophysical reality ?!

with meter we measure distance in space
with clocks we measure distance in time.

distance in space is physical
distance in time is of the mind, it is psychological

in this sense space-time could be interpreted as a psychophysical reality

It is impossible to measure a distance (in space) without using the durational aspect of time. So distance in space is of the mind, because all spatial distances exist in the past. The past and future do not exist physically, they exist in the mind.

Space and time are not intrinsically separate. Making distinctions between the physical and the psychological is a matter of convenience, because as you say "space-time could be interpreted as a psychophysical reality".

Do we have anything to gain by this understanding?

Zenmaster: It is impossible to measure a distance (in space) without using the durational aspect of time.

Amrit: no it is not impossible. A ball moves from A to B. The distance you measure with a meter.
When you want to know the speed you use clock. With a clock we measure duration and speed of duration. But clock is invented by the man and so TIME.

I introduce "The Concept of A-Temporality" into physics:
time is a mental construct into which we experience duration of motion into space.
This approach is much closer to the reality as a space-time approach.

What you gain ??!!

A lot. You gain understanding that gravitation can not move into time, because time does not exists as a physical reality. Gravitation is A-Temporal, exists in space only and not into time, it seems that GW does not exists, see my articles in "Electronic Journal of Theoretical Physics" : www.ejtp.com

Amrit, we all can see, you're just saying nonsenses: to measure speed you need a clock, i.e. the concept of time obviously, whatever you're thinking (and saying) about. You will not obtain anything by considering it as mental construct. Everything was invented by the man: the distance, time, gravity, whatever. The realism of time and distance quantities is solely equivalent.

The gravitation is closely related to the density of energy in vacuum, an such density can spread like gravitational wave by the speed of energy, i.e. the speed of light. For example, if some mass annihilates, the corresponding density cannot disappear in the whole volume of universe instantly. You have no proofs for your stance.

speed of particle or material body is a physical reality that exists into space only and not into time
to define, to describe speed we use clocks

but clocks does not run into time, clocks run into space only

how many time i would need to repeat this fact before you will see is so ???!!!


Z. Everything was invented by the man: the distance, time, gravity, whatever

A. no , distance is physical, gravity is physical,
BUT TIME IS OF THE MIND

By many times over, I'm afraid - because I see clearly, it's a nonsense. The time is the same real quantity, like the distance, because the Universe can be described by the wave equation recursively.



Both the Laplacians are fully equivalent (both distance, both time) from the reality meaning perspective. After all, the clock concept is based on the constant speed concept. The speed concept encloses both the distance, both the time concept at the same moment (ying-yang).

It means, the clock cannot run by the constant speed without both distance (space), both the time concept by the same way, as the wave equation itself - none of both these is privileged.

clock run by the constant speed because it is made so
the speed of clock depends on the density D of space
this is what one can experience in the universe
all rest is imagination (time as a dimension, ..................)

Sorry - it's evident, without time concept you cannot construct the wave equation as the fundamental description of Universe by the same way, as without distance (space) concept - both they're real by the same way. The time quantity isn't equivalent to the space quantity - both they're forming a duality (ying-yang).

Zephir: Sorry - it's evident, without time concept

Amrit:
finally yes, TIME IS A CONCEPT, you got it

Not just the concept, it's a physical quantity, like the space, energy etc.. Both the time, both the space are solely symmetric from the wave equation perspective, i.e. they're real by the same way.



If you believe, the time is just a product of consciousness, the same is valid for the space - and vice versa. But I feel, both these concepts are pretty real from the physical point of view, because they cannot be derived just using eleven axioms of algebra and they're existing independently to our consciousness (the Universe is much more older, than humans, obviously).

All the physical quantities are some idealization of reality, which simplifies our understanding of reality. The same the "density of space", "charge", "photon", etc.

All they're "real" by the same way, because they can be derived from the other more fundamental concepts (energy/mass or space/time).

Zephir: If you believe, the time is just a product of consciousness, the same is valid for the space - and vice versa.

Amrit:

time is not a product of consciousness, space is not a product of consciousness

in the universe bodies and particles move into space
consciousness is beyond space and motion and beyond time
about time we know what it is

Well, it's a certain progress from the previous statements like "time exist in human mind only"...

Currently I've no other comments.

If we look at energy or light its has wavelength and frequency the product of which equal the speed of light. If time and distance were only of the mind there should not be such a constant relationship between distance and time that is independent of time and space (reference).

I actually believe both points of view. Time and distance are mental concepts to measure changes of state. But I also believe that time and distance are types of quanta with intrinsic potential. This orientation makes relativity easier to understand. Velocity or gravity add potential to their intrinsic potential to create quanta of higher potential. The higher potential takes longer to process by the laws of physics.

Considering the recursion of wave equation, such constant relationship between distance and time can be derived just using such model. Each energy spreading through environment created just by energy should have the constant speed, i.e. no other assumptions are required.

Of course, the wave equation recursion is much more stronger assumption, than just the Lorentz symmetry principle and light speed invariance principle combination, because it contains a more information about system.

MDT If we look at energy or light its has wavelength and frequency the product of which equal the speed of light. If time and distance were only of the mind there should not be such a constant relationship between distance and time that is independent of time and space (reference).

Amrit:
distance, motion and speed of motion are physical realities
time is mind reality

Zephir: Well, it's a certain progress from the previous statements like "time exist in human mind only"...

Currently I've no other comments.

Amrit: sure you have no comments, because you do not have arguments.