symmetrically structured spacetime, SUMMARY OF MY THREADS

hi ! sorry about my english
I take the message about a diferent way n=12
My hypothesis is that 12 contans 10D of space and 2D of time
I really want to know the other way .

better version of my research is in :

http://www.wbabin.net
list of authors nikos alexandris
in my newest research these numbers is in fine structure

Good day!
There is a “spot” hidden in the calculations
http://www.cerglobal.org/graphics/Nikos1.pdf

( OR WE COULD SAY THAT ONLY 10 OF THE 12 oscillation ARE INVOLVED)
also of interest
http://www.wbabin.net/science/alexandris2.pdf
The Connection Between the Fine Structure Constant and the Proton’s
Mass and Length with Gravity
Author : Nikos Alexandris , nalxhal@yahoo.gr
http://www.geocities.com/nalxhal/time

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More importantly, look at the work by David Ritz Finkelstein. He makes understand of the math approaches easy to understand. (especially when keeping in mind the “spot”).
David Ritz Finkelstein analysis and approach has got applications and implications for the major discussions on this forum (Good Elf, Realitycheck, yqauntum etc. if you want to discuss then import the link to your threads.)
Homotopy approach to quantum gravity
David Ritz Finkelstein∗
August 21, 2006

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/gr-qc/pdf/0608/0608086.pdf

Finite Quantum Dynamics
David Ritz Finkelstein∗ Mohsen Shiri-Garakani†
May 26, 2006

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/quant-ph/pdf/0602/0602122.pdf

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jal

As usual …. Discussion at :
http://forum.physorg.com/index.php?showtop...55&#entry139351

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/hep-th/pdf/0611/0611042.pdf
Hidden Quantum Gravity in 4d Feynman diagrams:
Emergence of spin foams
Aristide Baratin1,2, Laurent Freidel1,2
03 Nov 2006

also, see
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/week208.html
For clarity refer to my model.
jal

This post has been edited by jal on Nov 10 2006, 05:29 PM

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/hep-th/pdf/0604/0604212.pdf
Quantum Gravity, or
The Art of Building Spacetime
J. Ambjørn a,c J. Jurkiewicz b, and R. Loll c
28 April 2006

As usual …. Discussion at :
http://forum.physorg.com/index.php?showtop...55&#entry139351

Considering that the speed of light, ©, imposes a minimum Planck size wave and a minimum Planck size sphere, ( 3(2 pi )) in 2D, and 2(3(2 pi )) in 3D, How would this restriction impact on the calculations?
The graphs seem to indicate that the degree of freedom is either 12 or 6 as I determined from my model.

BLACK HOLES

http://relativity.phys.lsu.edu/ilqgs/corichi111406.pdf
Quantum Isolated Horizons: The Planck Scale Regime
Alejandro Corichi

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/gr-qc/pdf/0605/0605014.pdf
Quantum geometry and microscopic black hole entropy
Alejandro Corichi, Jacobo D´ıaz-Polo, and Enrique Fern´andez-Borja,
14 Aug 2006

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/gr-qc/pdf/0605/0605014.pdf
Black hole entropy quantization
Alejandro Corichi, Jacobo D´ıaz-Polo, and Enrique Fern´andez-Borja5,
26 Sept 2006

Again.... here is my presentation....

Now, …. above, is the diagram showing where the waves can and cannot go.
The red is forbidden. It does not exist. Nothing can reside/stay within that 2 pi region.
The green is the area where the waves can occur by obeying the Planck scale rule. They cannot stay “flat”all the time. They can overlay as long as they stay and maintain a Planck length separation. They got to do some “up” spinning as the waves circle around the Planck Sphere and they must stay one Planck Length from each other and from the adjacent Planck spheres
Doing the next scaling 2X means that the 6 Planck waves would also scale and that now we would have a manifestation in 12 positions. Again…. Doing the dynamics is in future development
Just as predicted in my 3D packing presentation. (The circle around the 12 sphere is suppose to be a sphere)

Lets see ….. would it also mean that the minimum size would also scale to 2 X of what we had…. 2(3(2 pi ))? Ghee!!!! Thing sure are growing bigger and faster.
How far are we from 10^-18? We have definitely left Planck Scale.

As usual …. Discussion at :
http://forum.physorg.com/index.php?showtop...55&#entry139351

TRoc!


It’s a gem!! You came late for the party but you are making it real!
I’m going to enter it into the discussion and summary.

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/physics/pdf/0207/0207116.pdf
Work functions, ionization potentials, and in-between:
Scaling relations based on the image charge model
Kin Wong, Sascha Vongehr, and Vitaly V. Kresin
Department of Physics and Astronomy,
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089-0484, USA
(Dated: July 28, 2006)

By generalizing, this work has application to the TOE project.

As usual …. Discussions at http://forum.physorg.com/index.php?showtop...55&#entry139351

http://arxiv.org/ftp/nucl-th/papers/0309/0309035.pdf
The double tetrahedron structure of the nucleus
Jozsef Garai
Department of Earth Sciences Florida International University University Park,
E-mail: jozsef.garai@fiu.edu
4 Oct 2003

http://www.npaci.edu/successes/2001_tetra.html
http://www.hno.harvard.edu/gazette/2001/08.16/06-atomic.html
http://www.npaci.edu/enVision/v17.3/students.html#chemical

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http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synergetics/s06/p2200.html
R. Buckminster Fuller
624.03 Both the positive and negative tetrahedra can locally accommodate the 45 different energy exchange couplings and message contents, making 90 such accommodations all told. These accommodations would produce 30 different "apparent" tetrahedron position shifts, whose successive movements would always involve an angular change of direction producing a helical trajectory.
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There is a thread in all of those approaches. It leads to the "SPOT".
Jal

DYNAMIC MODEL double tetrahedron structure
Maybe someone can adapt this to the 4S model. I never suspected that the spacetime structure would reveal itself in the nucleus of the atoms
http://www.res.kutc.kansai-u.ac.jp/~cook/NVSIndex.html
by Norman D. Cook
The Nuclear Visualization Software
A novel aspect of the NVS program is the emphasis drawn to the FCC/SCP lattice representations of nuclei. While the features and practical uses of these models have been discussed in the physics literature, it is a quite remarkable, but not widely appreciated fact that the entire systematics of the quantum numbers assigned to nucleons (which is a direct consequence of the Schrödinger wave equation) is reproduced in an intuitive, geometrical manner within the FCC lattice
(or, alternatively, within the 50%-occupied SCP lattice). In other words, there is an unambiguous and precise one-to-one mapping between the known symmetries of “ nuclear quantum space” and the geometry of the FCC lattice. Whether or not real nuclei maintain this geometry (in some dynamic
and probabilistic fashion) is controversial, but the identity between the lattice symmetries and the n-, j-, m-, i- and s-quantum number symmetries of the Schrödinger equation is real and clearly illustrated within the NVS program. It is for this reason that the seemingly-contradictory character of the established models of nuclear structure theory might find unification within the (at-first-glance
counter-intuitive) FCC model – maintaining the principal strengths of independent-particle model (the entire eigenvalue description of nucleons, with the implied shell substructure of the nucleus) and those of the liquid-drop model (the constant-density nuclear core, binding energies and radii dependent on the number of nucleons, etc.). As an added bonus, various features of the cluster,
boson and quark models are implied by the lattice structure, as is the nuclear skin thickness and asymmetrical fission of the actinides.
Whether or not unification of the various nuclear structure models are at hand, there are many aspects of nuclear structure and dynamics that are more easily understood when the visual mode of thinking is also employed. This is not to say that pictures can replace analytical thinking, but every other branch of natural science has had the benefits of visualization and the intuitive help that visual
images bring. Particularly in light of the fact that several outstanding questions at the level of nuclear structure theory remain unanswered (What is the phase-state of nuclear matter? What is the nature and range of the nuclear force? How do nucleons aggregate in the nuclear interior?), the use of visualization techniques that are fully consistent with the quantum mechanical description of nucleon
states is worth exploring.
A-3: Installation Notes
The NVS program will run on the appropriate computers provided that the hardware system is set-up with support for OpenGL software. Newer Linux, Macintosh and Windows systems include the OpenGL graphics libraries with the operating system software, and no further preparation is needed to run the NVS software. Older hardware systems can often be configured with newer
operating system software and/or the OpenGL software libraries, such that the NVS program will run, but there are limits on the backward compatibility. Specifically, the NVS program will not run on the older Macintoshes (pre-PowerPC machines) or Windows and Linux systems that cannot
handle the OpenGL routines.
Source code for the NVS program is available on the enclosed CD. The entire code runs to 5,000 lines and can be recommended only to the experienced OpenGL/C programmer with a taste for spaghetti. There are, however, relatively clear-cut sections within the code where the nuclear model calculations are done. They should be of interest to physicists interested in adding new features to the NVS program. The code, written in ANSI-C (no C++), is provided as “ Open
Source” software.
The OpenGL libraries necessary for running computer graphics applications are available at no cost over the internet (http://www.opengl.org). With an appropriate C compiler, the source code with minor adjustments to the various hardware systems can be compiled and run as it is.
The glut32.dll file is provided with some computers as part of the operating system. If your computer doesn't have it, you need to download it from the Web
(for example, at
http://www.xmission.com/~nate/glut.html


Keyboard Shortcuts
http://www.res.kutc.kansai-u.ac.jp/~cook/N...rdShortcuts.pdf
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jal

This post has been edited by jal on Nov 29 2006, 04:35 PM

Hi jal,

I hope it's OK to transfer this from another thread to here..

Quantum entanglement ..
http://www.tongue-twister.net/mr/physics/bbo_photo.htm

I don't understand this either. Can you help us to focus on this?

Best wishes,

-C2.

Hi Confused2!
Yes... it's fits in my presentation.
From http://www.tongue-twister.net/mr/physics/bbo_photo.htm



We see The first photographs of downconversion light from a Beta Barium Borate (BBO) parametric downconversion crystal were take in the Innsbruck laboratory of the Institut für Experimantalphysik by Michael Reck and Paul Kwiat [Reck 1996].
What you are looking at are two photons (expanding bubbles) and where they crossed and entangled.
Where are the 6 intersecting points?
In order to achieve the “picture” they must go to great length to make sure that the equipment is set up just right so that the photons will produce only 2 entangled points at the right place in TIME and in SPACE.
The rest of the story is where we are not looking.
Insert: .

It took 10^6 photons to make that picture.
Here is another picture.
http://www.tongue-twister.net/mr/physics/entangled.htm
Entangled photon pairs from this source were used to demonstrate a violation of the Bell inequality by over 100 standard deviations.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell's_Theorem
This source is presently used in the Innsbruck Quantum Optics Laboratory for experiments in quantum information coding.
It shows 6 entangle photons.


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In the following experiment they go to great length to make sure to set up the equipment so that they obtain the expected “interferences” and get the right “picture”, Which is the one that you have been using in the discussion.
http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/quant-ph/pdf/0109/0109005.pdf
Measurement of the photonic de Broglie wavelength of biphotons generated by
spontaneous parametric down-conversion


A less exaggerated picture is at http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase.../imgpho/sinslit


Here is my picture. It shows the first doubling of the radius of 3 photon which are side by side. You got to be able to imagine where are the 6 entangled points. ( X Y Z AXIS)


If you want, you can speculate on how my model would explain the energy being located at those points in space and time AND in the pictures.
(I've got to keep some info up my sleeve.)
jal

This post has been edited by jal on Dec 8 2006, 04:34 PM

The discussion is happening at
http://forum.physorg.com/index.php?showtopic=6587&st=825
Problem with the two slit experiment, Observing later

….. continuing from
http://forum.physorg.com/index.php?showtop...55&#entry158230

Before reading the following you should have an understanding of my model.
As a result you will be able to see that what is refered as “the bounce” is actually the threshold to the 2 dimensional configuration.

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/physics/pdf/0605/0605078.pdf
The Issue of the Beginning in Quantum Gravity
Abhay Ashtekar
14 july 2006

( NO singularities in the BLACK HOLES)

the larger universe IS the 2 dimensional configuration of my model

MY MODEL
Initial conditions
When entropy is at 0.0% potential energy is at 100.0%. THIS WOULD BE A SOLID. This requires that there not be any freedom of movement. All dimensions are either unreacheable or occupied.
With the reverse situation, entropy at 100% and potential energy at 0.0%, all dimensions are empty and reachable. THIS IS A VOID.
What happened to POTENTIAL ENERGY in 2 D ? It went from 100% to 90.69%. What happened to POTENTIAL ENERGY in 3D? It went from 100% to 74.05%. This is the maximum packing density.
Conclusion
The horizon of a Black Hole is as I have described it. It is the 2D surface. It is supported by this paper. The interpretation of the math is wrong. It is not a “bounce”.
Eventually, the “math kids” will get to a “full” math description of my model.
A Black Hole made up 10^-18 units of a 2 dimensional spherical surface at the horizon is sounding better all the time.
A universe in which the start was similar to a Black hole and expanded, with nothing in it would be a “holographic universe” with our 3d universe existing at the expanded event horizon. However, this would imply that there is center to the universe and that there is an outside edge with nothing in it. Black holes would be “feeding” the expansion.
I don’t think that we have been able to detect a center or an outside edge to the universe.
jal
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http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/gr-qc/pdf/0612/0612147.pdf
Spectral Analysis of the Volume Operator in
Loop Quantum Gravity
J. Brunnemann_ and D. Rideout
22 Dec 2006

If you have my model in front of you then you will understand what he is doing.

Eventually, they will be able to do a numerical analysis of my model.
In case duality and yquantum came over to peek at what I had to say … I looked at http://www.symmetrymagazine.org/pdfs/20060...o_new_world.pdf and will add that the only supersymmetry that will make sense will be the one arising/generated from my model/the SPOT/quantum geometry.
jal

Do you want to learn a new math approach to try to understand the universe?
http://modelingnts.la.asu.edu/GC_R&D.html
David Hestenes
Geometric Calculus is a mathematical language for expressing and elaborating geometric concepts. Spacetime algebra is an application of this language to model physical space and time. It is the core of a universal language for physics, providing invariant formulations of basic equations and a powerful computational engine for deducing their consequences.
http://modelingnts.la.asu.edu/pdf/Spacetim...y.w.GC.proc.pdf
Spacetime Geometry with Geometric Calculus
David Hestenes
http://modelingnts.la.asu.edu/pdf/RigidBodyElastic.pdf
Homogeneous Rigid Body Mechanics with Elastic Coupling
David Hestenes
http://modelingnts.la.asu.edu/pdf/crystalsymmetry.pdf
Point Groups and Space Groups in Geometric Algebra
David Hestenes
http://www.brannenworks.com/
Carl Brennen’s page has some very interesting papers
jal

i never really understood what space-time is

could someone explain me

Good Day EVERYONE!
I have spent 2 days catching up. I have 3 pages of quotes from all of you which leads to this presentation.
© is a constant.
Therefore, the distance, (l), that light travels is a constant. It has always been a constant.
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Experiment # 1
Get a pack of sticky circles from your office supply store.
Mark six of them with a big “E”. It represents Energy in all its possible forms.
The circle represents the smallest possible scale at which energy is contained. It is the Planck Area. It is the smallest distance that energy can travel. Your circles will look like the following arrangement. (energy_nodes)


You cannot put the Planck scale energy nodes any closer than shown. They must be separated by a “nul” node of no energy. Therefore, the minimum total surface area is 24 Planck units.
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Experiment # 2
Get an orange that has a circumference of those six circles. Stick your circle on the orange.
You have now proven that the minimum size of a Planck Sphere is 24,(l) in area and that there can only be six Planck size ENERGY in a Planck size sphere.
Play with it. You will be able to find all kinds of quantum geometry relationships, like Hex. packing.
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Experiment # 3
Now, lets go to 3d. From the 2d arrangement, we will take one ENERGY node and 3 “nul” nodes and place them on the X plane. Then one ENERGY node and 3 “nul” nodes and place them on the Y plane. Then one ENERGY node and 3 “nul” nodes and place them on the Z plane.
Mathematically, Good Elf says, “Please note that this is a spatially distributed complex function and is represented by a complex plane 6 dimensional function (x,y,z,ix,iy,iz) in the real most general three dimensional case.”
To me, it is just the real location of the 2d energy in a 3d configuration.

That will make a total of 6 energy nodes and 18 “nul” nodes.
Here is my picture of one energy node and 3 “nul” nodes. (energy_nodes_2)

This will make a 3d sphere that has 3 energy nodes and 9 “nul” nodes. From the previous 2d energy distribution we can get two (2) 3d spheres that contain 3 energy nodes and 9 “nul” nodes. Each sphere will have a total of 12 nodes.(3d rotation)

How many energy nodes does a proton or a neutron have?
We call them “quarks”.
Do you have a model that can generate “quarks”?
A physicist will quickly point out that the total energy of a proton or a neutron is not the sum of the 3 quarks. There is something else making up the total energy.
How right!
Let’s put the proton into the 3d spacetime configuration that I have worked out, the 12 hex. packing of 12 spheres. There is plenty of room.
12 spheres X 12 nodes = 144 nodes that are available. A proton will only use 12 nodes.



All of the above has been derived for “first principles”. The speed of light is CONSTANT. If you change the speed of light then you have changed the distance, (l), that light must travel. © as a constant depend directly on (l) the distance. It does not depend on the size of (l). Therefore, (l) can be 10^-33 or even 10^-18.



The discussion is at http://forum.physorg.com/index.php?showtop...95&#entry166952