God does not play dice with electrons, An alternative interpretation to the DSE

Sorry, but I don't understand the quantum well concept too much in explanation of multiverse behavior of electron wave spreading. But I understand a spreading of such wave in inhomogeneous environment, where such inhomogenities are forming as the vacuum density fluctuations, dynamically splitting a restoring the electron's vibration to the different places of vacuum like the reflected light spot dance at the water surface. Such density field is just forming the 5th dimension (4D+1T), which you're talking about.



But by my opinion, such density field isn't stationary, it vibrates and oscilates like the other Aether matter independently. Only the internal vibrations of electron and the deBroglie wave depends to the electron location (see the scheme of three components of the vacuum density above).

The vacuum vibrations are independent to the particle movement, by the same way, as the Brownian waves are independent to the surface wave spreading. Such independent motion requires an additional hidden dimensions, of course, not just 4D + 1T.

Hi Zephir,

Everyone accepts that my experiment is valid and works and does not change the outcome of the DSE.

Could you therefore do me the favor of drawning a "quantum well" or "brick wall" in front of each double slits, in your various DSE diagrams, so that everyone can see what we are discussing.

Where is your experiment described? How it differs from the classical DSE?

Dear Zephir,

Your diagram is execelent, thank you.

Except for one deliberate mistake - QED, this is the classical DSE.

One of the basic fundermental principles of quantum mechanics, which the double slit experiment is an execelent example. As soon as you try to detect the electron, the interference pattern will disappear immediately.

You can only detect the electron or the interference pattern but NEVER both.

Can you please draw the correct experiment, with the Classical electron behind the wall and a Quantum electron (question mark ? or probability or gravity wave) is just somewhere in front of the double slits.

If we try to detect the electron anywhere inside the experiment we will immediately change the outcome of the experiment.

That is why I only use Quantum electrons (-mc2 or (i)mc2), in all 5 dimensions.

How hard is it to jump over a 4D wall in 5 Dimensions?

Regards

Terry Giblin

Don't afraid - I know exactly, how the DSE is working... But consider, I wouldn't to speculate, how to illustrate your theory for your viewing pleasure.

It's job of yours, obviously... The "quantum" brick wall at the front of experiment has no sense, obviously.

electron is a particle and a wave simultaneously.
by the two slit experiment particle will pass one slit, but wave will pass both of slit,
two slit experiment does not depend on the observer, so someone see that or not, experiment will have the same result

I suppose like everything in Science, everyone is entitled to his or her point of view, we each have our own interpretations and perceptions.

When I tried to solve the DSE, I asked the simple question, namely what is the only unknown in the experiment. To my surprize it turned out to be the electron, so I tried to think of a way to elimate the electron, without changing the experiment.

When I inserted the quantum wall to blocked out the electron, it was just like watching in a Total Solar Eclipse, revealing the true nature and properties of the electrons.

If we only believe what we can see, with our very limited vision, we might never see what is in front of our faces.

We still are not sure what an electron is, perhaps by closing our eyes discussing what we already know and understand, from all branches of science, we could formulate a better, wider accepted and understood theory, to start the next stage of development.

Regards

Terry Giblin

Well, I'm pretty sure I know, what the electron is. The electron is formed by the mutually perpendicular inertial (torsion) deformations of massive elastic environment, forming a vacuum. Such deformations can be connected in some place (the isolated electron at the rest), but they cannot (they're bouncing, interfering and self-reflecting at the case of particle in a box and/or in motion). At this case the wave forming an electron is spatial wave of density (probability) wave.



As the most closest real physic analogy of such spatial wave by my knowledge can serve the soliton wave in Bose/Einstein condensate (see the video)

Zephir, if you can answer the question "What is an electron?", which I set on Physicsforums in 2004, I would be delighted to hear the full details - Todate no one has came forward to accept my challenge.

What is an electron?

I would be delighted to hear from anyone.

When is a wave not a wave - When its a tidal wave, it hits you like a brick wall.

Regards

Terry Giblin

The electron is composition of two perpendicular torsion vibrations of vacuum of the different radius ratio. The one helicity is the source of weak charge, the larger one is the source of EMG charge. The picture below demonstrates the relation between the electron and neutrinos. It can be expressed as the planetary system of photon and gauge boson, revolving each other in one closed loop. The spiral (knot) model is just a scheme of path of vibration motion, the real shape of electron is toroidal duality.



It means, the electron behaves like oscillation vortex ring of vacuum. Such vortex ring behaves like the real particle, having spin, magnetic moment and defined motion speed. But the energy of electron, like all the other particles can be delocalized. The energy of photon spreads to the volume by the density fluctuation of vacuum forming a gravity lens for it's vibrations. The real shape of electron is given just by the mutual topology of perpendicular torsion vibrations, after than.

It's not so easy to describe such process using a common life model. Try to image a vibrating oil drop in water having shape of vortex ring. You can shake a fluid mixture, and you'll obtain a oriented cloud of tiny oscillating oil droplets, behaving like the compact particle as a whole. They can mutually connect a disconnect dynamically, being a formed just a torsion vibrations of vacuum lattice.

Dear Amrit,

http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=16484

If you care to look at the first image of a picture of the joke which I posted in physicsforums, when I first asked the question, "What is an electron?" I found it when I was looking for the answer and realized the joke had been on us all along.

Dear Zephir,

if you would like to accept my challenge I would appreciate if you could at least your skills to help me demonstrate my idea, you could use an STM image of clouds as the wall(s) to give it a true real affect.

Regards

Terry Giblin

PS How do you insert or add image files or attachments?????????/

It's not the first case, I've help somebody to illustrate his ideas here, but the problem is, I don't understand the concept of your at all.

It's evident, the electron need no "brick wall at the front of DSE", because the electron energy spreads to the islands just by passing through movable energy density inhomogeneities of vacuum. The real DSE doesn't requires such artifacts, like quantum wall at the front of experiment, as you probably know.

You can send me your pictures to the zephir@atlas.cz and I'll publish it here. Or you can create yourself some web-hosting and publish picture alone.

There is a "hole" in the current theory of the electron.

Once you know what you are looking for the answers are far easier to find.

By inserting a quantum wall, between the electron gun and double slit experiment,
I simply allowed everyone to see the what was making the hole.

The hole was not just in our imagination, its affects can be seen, since we did not change the out come of the experiment, imaginary holes have the same properties as their real counter parts the classical electron.

Here is a copy of an excellent paper I found today.

http://arxiv.org/ftp/quant-ph/papers/0001/0001016.pdf

Regards

Terry Giblin

Sorry, but I don't understand the connection between the electron hole, EPR paradox and "quantum wall" in DSE. I don't understand, how do you want to explain the DSE result using "quantum wall" at the front of DSE experiment.

Maybe somebody else will help you in explanation of it.

If you add an infinite number of quantum well, you by definition you will have to also create and infinite number of quantum electrons, traveling at the speed of light.

"An electron only exists, when it is obversed"

If you look for a real electron either in front or behind the slits, an electron will appear real.

Classical electron, quantum wall or vacuum (virtual pairs), quantum electron, quantum wall, quantum electron..................double slits, interference pattern or electron, which ever you try to observe.

Now consider a normal DSE in a sea of quantum electron's, in five dimensions.

What laws are we missing involving the imaginary dimensions and time, in single frames of reference.

Exactly how is time, spin and i related and connected at the planck scale.

What does this tell us about the electron and quarks, especially if we are living in a sea of them.

The difference between a Dirac sea and a Terry Giblin sea is that mine does not have any holes in it, only a probability wave instead of holes.

Holes are only form or a appear, as the electron tunnels through.

Regards

Terry Giblin