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| STAGGERBOT |
Posted: Feb 6 2006, 09:06 PM
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"Psychology Today" magazine has an on-line IQ test you can do that has "....been designed and built by highly qualified Psychiatrists with unrivalled experience."
http://www.psychologytoday.com/pto/self_tests.php?cat=IQ Pick the "Classic IQ test" They say they are using the results for "research" purposes (you can give them permission to use your results or not). Be warned though, if at the end of the test, and before you get your results, you say that you're male you will be penalized 6 points! It's not a peer reviewed journal but is it still a serious science publication? Apparently so according to their own mission statement which states their staff "...include individuals who have extensive expertise in the field of psychology, both from a clinical and an academic perspective. Many of our articles are written by, and rely upon information provided by, Doctors and Ph.D.'s who have dedicated their professional lives to the promotion of sound psychology.." ( http://www.psychologytoday.com/pto/about.html ) Is this more offensive to men or women? And also when they publish the results do you think they'll publish the fact that they sexually biased their results? Try it. After you get your results back click and change your sex then "get results" again. You'll be amazed at your fluctuating IQ. |
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| *vanadesse |
Posted: Feb 6 2006, 09:55 PM
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Hmm, I got a difference of 4 points. Strange though...
-------------------- "I'm not confused. I'm just well mixed." ~Robert Frost
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| STAGGERBOT |
Posted: Feb 6 2006, 11:22 PM
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Yeah, that's for sure. Kinda makes you wonder if psychological study is more concerned with social-engineering than scientific inquiry.
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| Guest_a_ht |
Posted: Feb 7 2006, 12:40 AM
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newbs... they are normalizing the results. it is known that males get a score 5-10 points above females in Iq tests. this is done is balance the results.
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| Guest |
Posted: Feb 7 2006, 02:46 AM
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I didn't know that was known. I thought it was first disputed and then disproved, and that the difference was chalked up to a bias in the educational system. |
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| adoucette |
Posted: Feb 7 2006, 02:47 AM
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Illegitimi non carborundum ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10215 Joined: 14-April 05 Positive Feedback: 73.86% Feedback Score: 131 |
a_ht,
Is the implication that Females are smarter in ways that can't be tested for? If so, how would you know what "offset" to add? hmmmm Arthur -------------------- "We cannot prove that those are in error who tell us that society has reached a turning point; that we have seen our best days. But so said all before us, and with just as much apparent reason. On what principle is it that, when we see nothing but improvement behind us, we are to expect nothing but deterioration before us?"
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| 555J |
Posted: Feb 8 2006, 02:22 AM
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I lost five points.
Actually, what this test indicates is that if a woman can answer as many questions right as a man can then she must be smarter than him. What the ***??!!! |
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| 555Joshua |
Posted: Feb 8 2006, 02:31 AM
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Hi, me again.
I just turned 17 3 months ago and my IQ has already dropped by three points. -------------------- If we do not learn from our mistakes, there is no point in having them.
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| *vanadesse |
Posted: Feb 8 2006, 03:27 AM
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Or it means that men in general get higher scores than women on IQ tests, so they 'scale' it so that the percentiles will be equal. So basically, maybe compared with the rest of the female population, the same number of correct answers translates to a higher IQ score than a man with that many correct. I have no idea really, just a speculation. -------------------- "I'm not confused. I'm just well mixed." ~Robert Frost
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| longlivelinky |
Posted: Feb 8 2006, 06:20 AM
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If this is how they "proved" women to be smarter than men then blimey talk about biasy.
Personally i dont think either sex has anything above each other, if women were so much smarter im pretty sure you wouldnt need in depth testing to get the answer, it would be worldly noticable, the only time youd need intricate testing like this is if the intelligence difference is so small-which proves nothing. Just because a female beats a male in an IQ test doesnt mean males are more stupid, because that male might have been in the 30% percentile of most intelligent males where as she was in the 90% percentile of most intelligent females. They say they will do the tests on opposite sexes with "similar intelligences" but if they get different IQ scores then theyre obviously not, and the difference doesnt prove much anyway. I personally think its just females being more naturally adept in one thing, and males being more naturally adept in something else. With practice and training both male and female can understand and learn the answer to anything. |
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| Guest |
Posted: Feb 8 2006, 06:10 PM
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The issue of IQ test scores has essentially been reduced to the point of nonsense. As the "Psychology Today" IQ test displays, it has become so laden with social-engineering and politics that that no real "research" can be performed or reported about it. I wouldn't give credence to any study you read about IQ. Effectively the goal of making IQ test scores irrelevant has been accomplished. A good argument can be made for why this is a good thing for everyone, especially under the widely accepted theory of multiple intelligences.
"The three great strategies for obscuring an issue are to introduce irrelevancies, to arouse prejudice, and to excite ridicule.... "---Bergen Evans, The Natural History of Nonsense |
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| *vanadesse |
Posted: Feb 8 2006, 09:41 PM
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It would actually "prove" that men would be smarter than women. I truthfully don't know which one is more ridiculous. -------------------- "I'm not confused. I'm just well mixed." ~Robert Frost
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| 555Joshua |
Posted: Feb 8 2006, 11:49 PM
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But if a man answers a certain amount of questions correct and a woman answers the same amount of answers correctly, logically, they are of equal intelligence. So then why does the woman have a higher IQ? IQ stands for Intelligence Quotant, in other words, the test tries to catogorize your intelligence based on your answers. It doesn't say if you are a man you are dumber than a woman even if you have equal intelligence. You should take anything this sight says with a grain of salt.
And this includes women who say they are four times smarter than a man.
Don't do that, you'll miss out on a lot of research. Usually, if it's full of *** you'll know. Like this test. -------------------- If we do not learn from our mistakes, there is no point in having them.
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| Upisoft |
Posted: Feb 9 2006, 01:32 AM
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Well, IQ tests measure only part of what we call Intelligence. It measures capabilities of using logic, making abstractions, visualizing 2D and 3D shapes and making mental operations, like rotation, on them. Other areas, like intuition, communication skills, watchfulness, etc. are never measured in such tests. However, generally men are better on first skills and women are better on latter. So, its normal to adjust the value for women. -------------------- "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe."
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| 555Joshua |
Posted: Feb 9 2006, 01:38 AM
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Then alter the test. Don't alter the score.
-------------------- If we do not learn from our mistakes, there is no point in having them.
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