Yin_yang of spacetime and matter, finding the shape of space/time

I is obvious that the believers of "structured spacetime" will have an up hill battle to try to say," It's my particle my theory". "There's my proof!!"
Every other influential group are all ready and lined up. They have the majority of the voter already convinced.
It does not mean that the theories makers should stop and die. After all LQG is the underdog and considered to be a dark horse by some.
Jal
don't forget what I said,
Do you want to be a "math. kid?"
Read the following pages up above

Yes, you're totally right. But all the current theories are just approximative, the LQG theory isn't exception. I recommend to consider the vacuum as the dense, but highly elastic (i.e. compressible) environment, all the other properties, approximations and the internal structures of it should be just the result of such introducing concept.

The main problem of both the LQG and M-theory arises from the assumption of some internal vacuum structures (i.e. particles, quantum loops, branes, twistors, whatever..), which are supposed ad-hoc for simplifying of such model. As the result, such theories will become over-parametrized necessarily, loosing its predictability. I believe, the vacuum behaves just like stupid vibrating massive elastic continuum formed just by inhomogeneities of it itself - not less, no more. The rest should be computed from ab-inicio, i.e. without any further consideration(s).

I admit, it can be a quite difficult for somebody to accept such approach, if he believes - even propagates - the naive idea, such massive environment doesn't exist, because it was refuted by the Michelson-Morley experiment more than one hundred years before, etc....

But it's not my problem of course, as such experiments - together with the light speed invariance postulate - are just a confirmation of Aether concept, instead.

Who has the right structure?.... secondary....
The number one problem is to demonstrate that the data collected supports a "structured spacetime".
jal

Nope, it can be very simple. For example, the Heim's theory has some structure concept and is able to predict the mass/charge of some simpler particles to the 6 valid figures.

Such agreement can be considered to be a good demonstration of such concept validity.

jal: we could do something to try to detect the structured spacetime?

Amrit: space-time has a body of a man and tail of a fish
it calls physicist continuously to bring them on the wrong path

the right direction is : TIME IS MOTION,

space time we will never be detect, because it does not exist in the universe
it is math model only

Hi!
It is time to bring these 3 threads together with matter/particles.
HOW GRAVITY AFFECTS THE SHAPE OF SPACETIME/SPOT

What would be the shape of spacetime in gravity? We have been told that spacetime is bent by gravity. We have been told that photons are red shifted by gravity. We have been told that lenght increases as you get closer to a black hole. Therefore, what would be the shape of spacetime that would cause these observations? (THE QUESTION THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ASKED.)

See the shape of spacetime in progressively increasing gravity. (space, earth, sun, big sun, and black hole. Or, if you like, no particle to progressing to more particles.) Therefore, there should be some observations in quantum physics.

It becomes obvious that there should be red shift perpendicular to the horizon and that there should be blue shift horizontal to the horizon. The blue shift cannot be detected. However, the bending is detected.

There should be variations in the experimental observations of the Inverse Square Law. The RADIUS IS DIFFERENT (X,Y,Z), THE SURFACES AREA IS DIFFERENT (X,Y,Z). SPACE IS NOT A SPHERE UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF GRAVITY. Therefore, space MUST have an internal structure. THE EVENT HORIZON OF A BLACK HOLE IS 2 DIMENSIONAL.
The reason that we do not detect a difference when measuring forces that depend on the Inverse Square Law, is because of the internal structure of the packed "spots". In 3d there are still 12 "kissing numbers".

However, when space is close to the event horizon of a black hole the 3d dimension is squashed and the event horizon is 2 dimensional and the kissing numbers are reduced to 6.


The bending of light by a gravitational body was predicted by Einstein (1912) a few years before the publication of General Relativity in 1916. For a point mass the defection can be calculated and is one of the classical tests of general relativity.
See
Deflecting of light by a gravitational field
Here is how the packing of spots would look like in gravity.


Comments on these presentations are appreciated.
Is GR and SR being violated or being explained?
jal

Hi jal

Interesting idea. How does one go about deforming the spots, say back to spheres while in a gravity field? If you are right then the shape of the spot governs physical quantities. Is the deformation the result of gravity leading to time dilation or visa versa? Is there a cause and effect that can be established? What intrinsic part of a spot allows it to affect or be affected by gravity and/or time?

These are questions that will need to be answered to flesh out your theory. If these questions can be answered then I for see some exciting times ahead.

Yin Yang, It's Too Mystical, of course it represents balance but The Universe Is More Systematic and can have an absolute probability under the right calculated circumstances.













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DOB: 3/31/92

light bend because space is round.
space is round because of the change of density D
density D is a physical property that mahes space round
and speed of motion depends on density D
more dense space less speed of motion

and time here is only a model to discribe motion

The time is the physical quality to describe the change. The motion is just a very special case of change, ie. the gradual redistribution of the Aether density in space.
The Aether is much more general term than space, as the Aether contains more the one space at the same moment.

The metron? -----> = spot..??

Technically, its conceptual...its a method of representing the situation.

By the Aether Wave Theory (AWT) the metron can have the physical meaning. As you probably know already, the AWT explains the Aether as the recursive wave equation solution. The gravitons are created as the fluctuations of nearly homogeneous environment, formed by the gravitational collapse of previous generation of Universe and denoted by the deep blue color on the animation bellow:



The metrons should be a waves of such environment, they're corresponding to super-gravitons in quantum field theory.

Montec...
Your answers are in my threads... due to a conspiracy to bury and to prevent my message from going out... you would have see your answers.
jal

Hi jal:

RE: your original Post Jan 24 2006, 09:04 PM for this topic, figure with
Space v Time and Spot 1-2-3-4

Consider imagining this 3D variant of your 2D diagram:

A 1-2-3-4 helicoid arising from the screen toward the viewer.

Similarly, construct helicoids for each loop from
image of Loop Quantum Gravity Carlo Rovelli
http://www.cpt.univ-mrs.fr/%7Erovelli/loop...tum_gravity.jpg

Similarly, construct helicoids for each planetary orbit from
the Solar system.
http://www.enchantedlearning.com/subjects/...solarsystem.GIF

- SPECULATION -
By constructing 3D helicoids from 2D loops, perhaps one has added a dimension of mechanics to a still picture or snapshot.

This may be equivalent to changing from a time dependent to a time independent Schroedinger equation.
[in 1. Solution of Schrodinger's Equation; NOTE applet is 2D NOT 3D]
http://www.atm.ox.ac.uk/user/palmer/tdse.h...FTOKEN=93304793