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> Yin_yang of spacetime and matter, finding the shape of space/time
jal
  Posted: Jan 24 2006, 09:04 PM


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One cannot exist without the other.Yin and yang can transform into one another
Most forces in nature can be broken down into their respective yin and yang states, and the two are usually in movement rather than held in absolute stasis.
Yin Yang is a way of thinking about phenomena, and a way to describe how things function and interact with each other in the Universe.
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SPACE AND TIME ARE YIN_YANG. dry.gif
The two are similar and are one.
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A SPACETIME UNIT
PARTICLES FIT INTO SPACETIME LIKE A HAND INTO A GLOVE--YIN_YANG.
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My presentations
Inverse Square Law
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attempted to present a very complex subject in a very simple manner.
I have simplified by showing that it is possible to use strings (1d) to generate a 2d surface and by rotating/spinning/twisting it at right angle to the 2d surface it is possible to generate our 3d universe.
It is not necessary to have more than 2d to generate a 3d.
However, it could require 10 mathematical dimension, 2 holes, 3 holes, 6 holes or even 12 holes.
Each of those spinning strings/surfaces are connected by one point to the 2d structure which has knotted up when the 3d structure was formed.
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The 'Big Bang Instanton" was a portal from the 2d universe. The "spinning" of these 2d instantons at right angle to the 2d surface created our 3d spacetime. Our universe did not start from one instanton as postulated by Hawkins and others but rather of a whole lot of instantons.
All of these instantons are still with us making the structure of spacetime. It is a very stable and symmetrical structure that has lasted for 14 BY.
Instantons which could not be incorporated into the structure of spacetime (10^80) became "the glove on the hand".
Since Hawkins and others have demonstrated that "Black Holes" have a 2d signatures then by taking the logic one step further we can postulate that particles have managed to open up a portal to the 2d universe. The 3d structure has been flatten to 2d.

Everyone is trying to find the shape of a unit of spacetime. smile.gif
Everyone is stuck on the problem of "gravity" and the "Higgs particle/field". (The answer could be the connection to the knotted 2d space) huh.gif

For an Images of loop quantum gravity look at Carlo Rovelli's page. It's similar to my 2d presentation.


Try interpenetrating tetrahedral by Chris Quigg, to see how he visualizes the organization of particles.


See the Twistor Strings Workshop and see some of the work in progress by Edward Witten, Roger Penrose, Michael Atiyah and others.


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My "spot" is still a viable and plausible candidate. unsure.gif
One man was able to move the sun to its proper place in the universe.
It will take the combined efforts of SUSY, BRANES, AND LQG to move spacetime to its proper place in the universe. Each has part of the answer.
Some of the properties of particles need to be re-evaluated since they may in fact be properties of spacetime. (Yin_Yang)

The results/findings will be greater than what I have postulated. rolleyes.gif
I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF YOU WOULD JUST LEAVE A LINK TO YOUR THREAD.
WE CAN CARRY A DISCUSSION IN YOUR THREAD. huh.gif
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Posted: Jan 24 2006, 09:44 PM


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Wery interesting, I'll try to examine it. Concerning your attempts to express the structure of multidimensional recursive structure of vacuum by some geometrical way it can be interesting for You the recursive structure of vortexes inside of Bose-Einstein condensates, which enables to express the elastic structure just in 3D as the system of adjacent closely packed spheres(?).

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amrit
  Posted: Jan 24 2006, 10:35 PM


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Hi jal. in thaoism space and matter are yin and yang, what you say is not exact, you can read that in every book of taoism, matter is female (Yin), space male (yang)

yes, space and matter are similar to Ying and Yang

QS as a basic packet of energy is TAO,

and what is time here:

time is eternal dance of Ying And Yang (of space and matter)

TIME IS MOTION

comparing above make sense for me
In China they have been clever enough 3000 years ago to know that universe is eternal, no beginning, no end,
we are still discussing about beginning ?????!!!!!

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QUOTE (amrit @ Jan 25 2006, 01:35 AM)
In China they have been clever enough 3000 years ago to  know that universe is eternal, no beginning, no end.

I can say, the time is eternal dance of energy and matter or the dance of the kinetic and potential energy by the same way, but it's not so exact, because it's a very special state of Universe, which can be described by the wave equation recursively. The time is indirectly proportional not just the motion, but its total energy density at each point (i.e. both the kinetic, both the potential energy together). Just the deformation of it retards the time, dear Amrit. wink.gif

The common behavior of space can by quite different, outside of our understanding the energy/motion concept.


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amrit
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zephir i'm a soul and you are intelligence

it is a joke, after all this mind dis. maybe a joke is fine


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jal
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You should have gone and looked at Twistor Strings Workshop.
There is a whole lot of curent info and ....
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With particles in mind; my picture of things address time to be inversely proportional to vacuolar deformations, created either by acceleration or gravity.

Both affect the vacuolar boundary to singularity distance, and is a manifestation of
harmonic restoration with regards to its propagating interdimensional wave flow. biggrin.gif
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With particles in mind; my picture of things address time to be inversely proportional to vacuolar deformations, created either by acceleration or gravity.

Both affect the vacuolar boundary to singularity distance, and is a manifestation of
harmonic restoration with regards to its propagating interdimensional wave flow.

Time is created by acceleration or gravity ?
Could you explain better. !!!

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QUOTE (jal @ Jan 25 2006, 01:59 AM)
You should have gone and looked at Twistor Strings Workshop

JAL, I already know about it, as it's just a convergence to my N-dimensional vortex model. The superstring theory wouldn't converge to any usable result (being too general) without merging with the Twistor theory (being low-dimensional) - and vice-versa.

Sometimes it could more effective for understanding to have it's own idea - after all, it's much more fun.


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Twistor Strings Workshop by those prominent minds all had questions.
You should be giving your answers to them.
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Jal I really like your model of voids being the structure for our perception of "virtual" matter, but what allows your model to progress in time? If time as armit likes to describe and how I like to think of it as the motion of matter or em waves through a static medium would there then be any gap in the wave packet? I'm not sure if I'm getting my idea across so think about it like this, instead of individual sections of time that say a beam of light travels along why not have its rotation progress continuously along its axis of propagation which would allow its spiral wave to have no distinction between quanta of time? blink.gif I dunno I think I'm starting to get dumber with this physics stuff smile.gif
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Hi Guest_Steve!
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Remember, that the "spot" was built up from first principle... a unit of space and time. (an instanton)
If you look closer at the spinning Stellated Tetrahedron/ you will notice that it is not stellated nor is it spinning in the third available direction. It should. Spinning might not be the proper terminology to describe what is happening to this "void". Maybe throbbing/pulsating/beating. .. which is determined by how the "spot"/soliton/instanton/ can be a packed/arranged without having any of the lens traveling farther that 2 pi.
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Anything that moves farther than 2 pi and for a longer duration than 2 pi is enjoying the pleasure of "moving" and "time". Such as a photon traveling in a straight line through the "void". Each of the 4 "lens" can/must have a spin around an x,y,z, axis to sustain the 3d of spacetime.
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...why not have its rotation progress continuously along its axis of propagation which would allow its spiral wave to have no distinction between quanta of time?...

Could the movement of these lenses be coordinated so that there is a propagation is a spiral by a photon?
I would say yes.
Could the movement of these lens be coordinated so that we perceive the "wave" nature of a photon?
I would say yes.

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If the definition of a unit of space and a unit of time was change then in the following picture you can see the uncertainty of "foaming vacuum". it.
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Those who do not believe that there can be a structure to "space" have a lot more to explain than I who believes that there is a packed/organized structure which we have not detected.
The math will determine who has a representation/image of what is happening.
Right now I'm following the thread "Burkhard Heim's Particle Structure Theory".
I think that what I have presented is a good candidate. I have not broken any laws of physic and given a possible explanation for a few unexplained observations. (ie. what makes 3d?)
I guess everyone else figures that their model is the best one. rolleyes.gif


Review what I have been saying at
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I'll do my best to explain my presentation/approach. If it helps with your approach...good!! smile.gif
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I was not paying attention. The following should read:
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If you look closer at the spinning HYPERBOLIC Stellated Tetrahedron  you will notice that it is not HYPERBOLIC nor is it spinning in the third available direction.

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So this spin we think of is the manifestation of the deformation of space-time by the underlying void that is pulsating (morphing). So my next logical question is what is this void you speculate comprised of? Is it the collapse of dimensional steps, like a boundary type or membrane or am I getting off track again?
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QUOTE (Guest_Steve @ Jan 30 2006, 06:42 AM)
what is this void you speculate comprised of? Is it the collapse of dimensional steps, like a boundary type or membrane or am I getting off track again?

It behaves like elastic superfluid, formed nearly exclusively just by the recursive torsion vibrations/vortices of itself (similar to the common E-B condensate, but multidimensional). The picture bellow describes the fundamental vibrations of the simple particle. And yes, it's heavily quantized - try to bring-up, the perimeter of bubbles can be formed just by the integral number of wave periods by such a way, such super-fluid "scrunches" or "creaks" under deformation. Here's no energy dissipation due the non-elastic deformations, even the quite subtle vibrations are propagating at long distances without energy loss.

The spin quantity corresponds the sum of the torsion character of the vibration, is always 1/2, as the one half of perimeter motion is separated (i.e. projected) to the tensor motion along radius. The helicity of such motion can be both positive, both negative an it corresponds the particle charge. Here are other aspects of such model, for example the vibrations are forming "convolution layers", the character of vibrations is mutually repeating. Most of simple particles are forming so called generations, just occupying the different subsequent layers (denoted by the blue, green, yellow and red color on the animation bellow). It means, the heavy electron (i.e. muon) is just the other bunch of vibration between the different trinity (green, yellow, red) of the subsequent space convolution levels with compare to the normal electron (blue, green, yellow), thus differing by the radius/energy density, i.e. mass, but not the internal topology. Is it clear how it works?

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It means, the vacuum behaves like highly elastic compressible jelly or elastic foam, formed by the particles of less compressible jelly recursively. After all, the atoms of super-fluid helium behaves by the similar way, because the orbitals of it are elastic too.

Despite the fact, we are formed just by the vibration of vacuum, the macroscopic properties of it are surprisingly classical, but it should be always remembered, the vibrations of it are realized by the surface of bubbles/vortex perimeter nearly exclusively. Such surface effects is a quite common in quantum world, as the most energy of atom nuclei are concentrated at the surface too, for example. Even the water is able to transfer most of the energy just by the water surface (the underwater waves are rather subtle). The introducing some energy just leads to the vorticity/energy density increasing, similar to the turbulent super-fluid. I'm explaining some of the vacuum properties with respect to the light spreading at the different frequencies here, or here, for example.

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