Post-Schooling Scholarship

Post-Schooling Scholarship

I would like to introduce a concept that perhaps many have not given consideration. I would like to introduce post-schooling scholarship.

I think we have placed scholarship on a too lofty pedestal and in doing so we have placed it beyond reach or consideration. I want to suggest that middle class scholarship is reality that we all should consider as a friend to be embraced as our own.

It appears to me that we give this description, scholar, to the young student in an aristocratic English Academy and to the pipe smoking, dressed in tweeds, English professor or American equivalent.

The development of an economic middle class is the hallmark of success in any mature nation. I think it is possible that the development of a scholarly middle class could represent a similar development in the life of democracy of a nation.

I think that schooling in America has been given the assignment to prepare our young people to enter the work place. Our schools and colleges are required by society to prepare young people as efficiently as possibly to become troopers in the drive to maximize production and consumption. This assignment gives our teachers and professors little time to prepare individuals to become critical thinking mature intellects prepared to understand a rapidly developing reality driven by the technology these graduates are capable of producing.

I am a retired engineer with a good bit of formal education and twenty-five years of self-actuated learning. I began the self-learning experience while in my mid-forties. I had no goal in mind; I was just following my intellectual curiosity in whatever direction it led me. This hobby, self-learning, has become very important to me. I have bounced around from one hobby to another but have always been enticed back by the excitement I have discovered in this learning process. Carl Sagan is quoted as having written; “Understanding is a kind of ecstasy.”

I label myself as a September Scholar because I began the process at mid-life and because my quest is disinterested knowledge. I think of myself as a middle class scholar.

Disinterested knowledge is an intrinsic value. Disinterested knowledge is not a means but an end. It is knowledge I seek because I desire to know it. I mean the term ‘disinterested knowledge’ as similar to ‘pure research’, as compared to ‘applied research’. Pure research seeks to know truth unconnected to any specific application.

I think of the self-actualized learner of disinterested knowledge as driven by curiosity and imagination to understand. The September Scholar seeks to ‘see’ and then to ‘grasp’ through intellection directed at understanding the self as well as the world. The knowledge and understanding that is sought by the middle class scholar are determined only by personal motivations. It is noteworthy that disinterested knowledge is knowledge I am driven to acquire because it is of dominating interest to me. Because I have such an interest in this disinterested knowledge my adrenaline level rises in anticipation of my voyage of discovery.

I was taught by one of Richard Feynman's graduates. He could conjure up the devil whenever he wished. He was supposed to be teaching us elementary solutions to Schrodinger's equation. Do you have the concept of looking into the fire? Please use less words if you choose to respond, yes or no would suffice from my end.

I use the definition of scholar as ‘a learned person’. Our educational system and our culture seems to try to convince us that some sort of certification is required to be a learned person; I do not accept that judgment to be accurate. Our culture also seems to acquaint specialization as being learned but I reject that attitude also.

I think that a person who follows her or his own curiosity in an attempt to understand the world and them self can qualify as a learned person. Curiosity is the key. Without curiosity such learning is not possible. The self-actualized learner, by following his or her curiosity will, I think, tend to become a person of understanding more than a person of knowledge. Knowing and understanding are two distinct matters of intellection. Our educational system teaches us what to know. I see the self-actualized learner as a person who seeks to understand and only the individual can ascertain what is missing for understanding to take place.

I would like for our culture to place scholarship in a place accessible to the common man or woman. As long as we treat scholarship as some form of special fraternity inaccessible to the common fellow then the common fellow will not find the curiosity required for understanding.

I am trying to help here..
If you didn't understand the question then surely the appropriate response (whatever your age or class or intent) should be along the lines of
"please clarify... " .. and we both move forwards.

Con..

Perhaps we are talkng past one another. Please clarify. I am not able to be clear if I am restricted to yes or no questions.

Hello coberst.. at least a channel seems to have opened.

From the start of this thread I had the impression you might be struggling a bit with the internet as a form of communication - I admit I am. I've since looked back at some of your other posts - they are all in this "off-topic" section so perhaps you are perfectly happy here. I can't tell whether you would like to be involved in the "on-topic" sections of what is, after all, a site for people interested in physics.

Is it the physics you wish to discover?

Best wishes, Confused2.

Confused2

I am a retired engineer and have had a good bit of physics in one form or another. I am interested primarily in convincing others to become adult scholars. I have a web site www.septemberscholar.com where I have posted a rather long essay about what septemberscholar means. Here is a short version.

I label myself as a September Scholar because I began the process at mid-life and because my quest is disinterested knowledge. While I mark the beginning of my process to be mid-life I had begun immediately after graduation to feel the need to develop a ‘real’ understanding of the world around me. I think of myself as a middle class or post-schooling scholar.

Disinterested knowledge is an intrinsic value. Disinterested knowledge is not a means but an end. It is knowledge I seek because I desire to know it. I mean the term ‘disinterested knowledge’ as similar to ‘pure research’, as compared to ‘applied research’. Pure research seeks to know truth unconnected to any specific application.

I think of the self-actualized learner of disinterested knowledge as driven by curiosity and imagination to understand. The September Scholar seeks to ‘see’ and then to ‘grasp’ through intellection directed at understanding the self as well as the world. The knowledge and understanding that is sought by the middle class scholar are determined only by personal motivations. It is noteworthy that disinterested knowledge is knowledge I am driven to acquire because it is of dominating interest to me. Because I have such an interest in this disinterested knowledge my adrenaline level rises in anticipation of my voyage of discovery.

Hello coberst,

I feel I failed to make my point - a great teacher will take his students with him - they will be drawn like moths to a flame. I have at least established that I am no 'great teacher' - I think you might be...

Best wishes, Confused2.

I suppose I'd be one of those people who just want to know things because I can. That's why I came to this forum-to learn more about physics! Perhaps curiosity is not only for those who are already in mid-life... I enjoy sucking up new info.