Particles have mass, HOW?, Higgs or ?

MY SANDBOX
It is not fun to play in your sandbox. Your sandbox is too small. It’s for babies. Your sandbox has only 4 sides (3d+T). In your sandbox you got to pretend that it has 12 sides. It’s for babies who like to be amazed by the sparks from rubbing two stones together.
Only babies want to dig holes that are black and say that there is nothing to see.
Your sandbox is for babies who like to stand around waiting for toys to come bubbling out of the bottom of the sandbox.
Only babies like to be amazed by “spooky action at a distance”, “entanglement”, “renormalization”, “Uncertainty relationship”, “virtual particles”, and all kinds of magic and unexplained things.
75 years ago, the kids, that are now old, found a nice box of particles toys which they left for you to play with but you don’t know how to play with them and put them together properly. You only play with them the same way that the older kids did. Over and over and over and over again.
It’s too bad that Einstein didn’t know about my sandbox--- he would have had a great time.
My sandbox is 3 times bigger than yours. In my sandbox there are 12 sides and we can pretend that there are 36 sides.
My sandbox is for older kids. In my sandbox you are not allowed to dig holes and wait for pretend new toys to come bubbling out of the bottom.
My sandbox is filled with piles of sand and when you stand on them you can see over the edge of the 12 sides and see that there is another sandbox that has 6 sides. Also, off in the distance you can see the edge of the great big mountain that made all the sand.
In my sandbox we can see where the light came from, what it’s doing, and where it’s going.
In my sandbox you can see the harmonic resonant processes.
In my sandbox you don’t need to have somebody tell you to shut up and calculate.
When the older kids come to play in my sandbox they are going to find new ways to have fun. No more digging of stupid holes. No more playing with pretend/virtual toys. They are not allowed in this sandbox because there are lots of real toys to find and to play with.
There’s only one kid, Heim, who is playing in my sandbox. He found a box of particles just like the one in you small sandbox. His box of particles is more fun to play with.
Slinky and Twisty have left your sandbox and I expect --- pretty soon --- they will find my sandbox --- then everyone is going to have a lot of fun.
I see that Susy is getting tired of playing in a small sandbox. You should come over and play with Heim. You are going to have a lot of fun. Your toy –Higgs and his toy – Metron.
jal

Now now jal, if we all liked to play in the same sandbox, we would all need alot of kitty litter pooper scoopers....
Remember, some people are happy playing with their old toys, they don't like the shiny new toys. But you still need to play nicely!

So remember, even Yquantum says changes need to happen. So keep working in the direction you are going, but keep your ears open and be willing to change if necessary. Best of luck to you. Hoorah!

[QUOTE=Neil Farbstein,May 4 2006, 11:52 AM] [/QUOTE]
The quantum equations that describe quantum correlation and "spooky acttion at a distance" predicted that phenomenon without hyperspacial links in
it. Hyperspacial links may be superfluous. Do your hyperspacial links allow more communication and effects than the bell theorum or the same? What consequenes
are there? [/QUOTE]
Neilf',

Forget Ted & Alice..or was it Bob?.....I'm dealing simply with a possible physical mode of 4-D wave propagation.

I know we initially were at odds, but Neil please give my unified field theory a second chance.

Spacial Vacuoles

This is just to agree that we need change because so much data is out there to be interpreted and analyzed.

jal, "THEY", "(2), NF Good Elf, T.Roc, et all,

"THEY" very well put above ^^', and you are right we do need improvements but it is on its way, jal you just do as "THEY" has advised you and if you pursue your ideas then one day I will be the one to read your book, oh have "THEY" proof read it for you we all need as much help as we can get. Eh!

NF, if you really want to know the real truth behind it all and this will cause a stir I am sure.

All, ‘QUANTUM MECHANICAL MATTER’ is comprised of, Waves of NOTHING! I can almost see the search engines starting up in the grand search to prove this statement wrong.


Most beginning physics students are told about the particle wave duality but you will soon come to find out that it was to give them a concept, but it is not reality of the true QM matter world we speak of.

BTW, why is this done, it help most students with there incredible cognitive abilities from over heating there gray matter to mush. It is all ‘wave function!

I did now this I know, but as I have said it is not as it seems the QM world, and there is so much to be changed or should I say to revise or reconstruct in our learning because of the weirdness and UN-intuitiveness of such a theory.

ciao_
yquantum

Hi yquantum! book??
All of you have been my proof readers. my critiques my board of examiners
Here is the last paragraph
Why are there so few people playing in my sandbox
First reason
Evolution has made humans to be able to see 3d+T for reasons of survival. Therefore, your body is repeatedly telling your brain that the “sandbox” has only 4 sides.
Second reason
Whenever you see the math that says 12 sides (packing) your body overrides that information, your mind glazes over and you reject it and accept 4 sides.
Third reason
Your body is lying to you. You prefer to believe your body. Yet the math does not lie.
You refuse to accept the math.
Fourth reason
Slim and slinky have done the math and even they have not made their body shut up and they have not found the 12 sided sandbox.
Fifth reason
I know that Heim is playing in my sandbox because he used 12 sides X 3 = 36 imaginary sides and rejected 12 as not being good.
Lo! and Behold!…. He found the box of particles.
Sixth reason
The people don’t realize how much fun it’s going to be playing in the real sandbox.
Therefore, don’t challenge what I have said, I’m just the messenger.
Challenge your body or change the math.
The only people who will be able to play in the 12 sided sandbox are the people who will be able to tell their bodies to shut up so that the can use their brains
jal
Good night yquantum...pleasant dreams
ps
I keep my hat beside my bedside in case I need to eat it for breakfast

Jal,

What you term dimensions, I label wave aspects in 3 dimensions!

Extract from Spacial Vacuoles:

Remember the trinary 2-D vacuolar assemblage which is my interpretation of "Quarks"?
(see previous)

Every 2-D vacuole is effectively a polarised photon. However, because it forms a sub-structural tier of a multi-dimensional wave envelope it is capable of energy transmission/propagation through higher dimensional space.

Please recall my photon as "beating" wave propagation through an auto-generated singularity....with every alternate pulse, creating the bi-polar electromagnetic manifestation. Quarks form part of a continuous flow of energy, from and to higher space, it is this additional 4-D undulating wave around the hypertorus which manifests as charge.

An electron/proton have 3 a-piece...if disrupted, as in a high energy collision between 2 particles i.e proton-proton. This impaction can create short-lived Kaons from a total of 12 potential wave aspects (the 3 waves multiplied by 2 according to their individual wave propagation with respect to the singularity @ the instant of collision, times the number of particles). These 'aspects' are 6 x 1-D import/export vectors radiating to & from the auto-generated zerospace singularity.

So this ties up neatly up with the insanity we call QCD i.e 6 varieties per trinary quark assembly.

You're in quicksand, not a sandbox Jal.

What is the real truth? I am going to publicize it. No matter that the stir it causes.

You reminded me we are at odds. What are we at odds about? I read your theory.

Hi fivedoughnut!!....
I'm sure that I said that there were similarities with what I was saying. I don't know.... all that I did was to show that there has to be a connecting structure for what ever is our there. I took the easy way out and picked the structure that had all the math done (packing) and that was being ignored for some reason.

After 75 years of playing the same record..... (It's too good to throw away) it is time for a new tune.
You can play my record, (it has promising tunes on it) or get your own.

simple jal
ps (you cannot write a book, make a hard copy, that everyone on the web has read!)

...Oh, perhaps it was someone else?

jal, & fivedoughnut,

My desire on this site was to encourage new approaches & you both have done this, some theories presented I could not debate because it was more than I am willing to risk my experiences and data that is before me to give false hope but we know they will still feel they are right and that is fine. Genius is a very lonely road to travel and I am sure there are a few on this site, so never say never.

CHANGE, easy word to type but by just human nature a very hard process to carry out, you know the history of physics the debates and harshness towards there own peers, if not complete in a state of denial of what was fact according to data received from numerous test in many countries and labs.

Just something to think about, I was told this and I will pass it on to you.

Work together find what is in common and make strides to come up with something that might just be a new approach, you will never know until you try.

Best of luck,
ciao_
yquantum

I was wanting to say almost the exact same thing as I was reading these posts.

Imagine this: You are all correct in your own theories......... Now wouldn't that be funny?

I don't have the education to rely on, only intuition. But intuition tells me that jal's kissing numbers, and Zephir and 5doughnuts aether theories are the same sandbox. Just one is IN the sandbox, one is ABOVE the sandbox, and one is standing NEXT to the same sandbox. All of those theories need to realize that and jump into the sandbox, and remember to invite quantum mechanics, cosmos, math, SR and GR, and all other vital theories and facts. (or maybe it should be a twelve sided pool - for waves)

Everyone wants to be an Einstein and go down in history as THE ONE who comes up with a TOE, but I no longer believe that is possible to go where we need to go. A team of ten (if they can truly be a team player - that will be hard since you have all come to your conclusions/theories because you are intelligent and driven INDIVIDUALS) will accomplish far more than one individual thinker. I could lecture on team building, but I wont! But I would do anything to see this happen!

ps - I am going to show my ignorance here, but what is a GUT?? General Unified Theory? Grand Unified Theory?

They,

All of us are aspects of the 'truth'....may we never get there....it would be so dull!


as for GUT......who cares...I'm drunk

Hi yquantum, "THEY", fivedoughnut, Neil, Jal et al,

Yquantum... you were right it was inevitable that someone would look. Now we both know that "Wave Functions" themselves do not exist but they represent "something" that does exist. I remember seeing a photo of a STM image in a waveguide cavity that showed "wave functions". So here is a claim that pictures of "wave functions" exist. It is hard to find this information but here is an article from Berkley..
First-ever images of atom-scale electron clouds in high-temperature superconductors could help in design of new and better materials: 16 Feb 2000
There is a quote from this article...

Direct Quote: The electron cloud is localized around the impurity, and displays a cloverleaf shape characteristic of d-wave orbitals. Note additional diagonal bumps between the leaves of the four-leaf clover. These were not predicted by the current theory of high-temperature superconductivity.

I have seen another that was better. Once again the "rock solid" theory of particles fails to predict what is seen in the "wild"... as waves.

So we can "see" the "density" function spatially of individual atoms. I realize that this function would be disturbed since we are talking about energies equivalent to "hearing the amount of energy entering your ear of a pin drop off a table in New York from the distance of Los Angeles." This represents "something" that can be represented by a "wave".

This then "points" to those experiments in Circuit QED (see link below) that "trap a single photon" for exceedingly long periods of time. These use individual photon techniques that are truly surprising and are working with the wave functions of individual photons in a single qbit state.

This can be related back to Shen's Paper....
The resemblances in mathematical structures between the optical constants of artificial electromagnetic media and some physical phenomena in field theory : Jian Qi Shen
In this paper (see page 2 - 3 equations 3.2 and 3.3)...

This flourishing technology is quite dynamic and has led to many new and exciting meta-materials (see JB Pendry) based entirely on the wave nature of matter. Stopped Light, EIT (Electromagnetically Induced Transparently), Optical Anti-matter, Negative Refractive Index Materials, Spun light... many other exciting technical developments all in the last couple of years which show direct relationships not with the particle properties of matter but their wave properties and the way that entangles with other particles. See the success of some of that development at "Boeing Phantom Works" on developing practical synthetic alexandrite Optical Negative Refractive Meta-materials. Such things as particle bi-location in wave guided "quantum" corrals which "image" the wave properties of a single atom creating "ghost" atoms with all the properties of a "real" atom ... etc. I don't know how many times I have pointed to Circuit QED and the amazing properties of trapping and controlling a single photon and its qbit almost indefinitely in "synthetic" atomic "boxes".
Circuit Quantum Electrodynamics

It is all very interesting stuff and I think holds a very important principle. Many of these are leading toward the development of a practical quantum computer... according to some this is not a "maybe" but is now a forgone conclusion as all technical objections have been recently removed by recent developments. Quantum Computers alone lead to "strong" physical interpretation of the wave function.

Cheers