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| Trucker |
Posted: Nov 11 2005, 07:27 PM
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http://www.physorg.com/news8113.html
IBM 3D TV -- Where is the difference? International Business Machines (IBM), a worldwide leader in technology innovation, has announced a new and affordable 3D video system. IBM has managed to alternate the video frames to give the appearance of double projectors without the added cost. This means adding video frames – lots of them. While normal “live” video is 30 frames per second, this device processes 144fps. First you see the frames from the left and then the right perspective giving the image an authentic three dimensional look. It would be interesting to see what the difference is between IBM’s 3D video system and a 3D Video system developed by Carl Zeiss back in the early 1990s to be used by surgeons for MIS (minimally invasive surgery)? That system required the use of glasses to switch between the left and right eye viewing a standard video monitor with an increased frame rate. If I remember correctly, with the 1990s system there were problems with shutter sync, light levels in the operative field and instrumentation weight. |
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| TeeREX |
Posted: Nov 11 2005, 07:48 PM
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As far as I understood it'll be cheaper and also it'll play on standard TV and projection systems.
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| Lonk |
Posted: Nov 11 2005, 08:47 PM
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If you need glasses its not worth it, you can buy a pair of 3d-glasses that work with tv monitors and crt tvs for 70 bucks or so(i think 300 for 2 pairs + converter for dvd movies). The main difference is that the image will look 3d inside the tv/monitor. And thats no million dollar project, its cheap gaming technology.
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| Exploited (Amsterdam) |
Posted: Nov 12 2005, 03:23 PM
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Don't forget that video-glasses are going to be the next cool thing after video on your iPod becomes mainstream. Since video-media is entering the "fully portable" age and everyone can watch video wherever they go, it won't take long for people to want to have something more comfortable to watch it on than having to hold the iPod or other machines up in their hands.
As video-glasses become more mainstream people will watch the news, read newspapers AND...will become prime targets for 3D TV! |
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| jeremiah |
Posted: Nov 12 2005, 03:38 PM
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www.edimensional.com i have their 3d glasses and they work great... 1000 dollars... come on!!!
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| Trucker |
Posted: Nov 12 2005, 05:15 PM
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I believe “Exploited (Amsterdam)” comments are ‘right-on’. 3-D video viewing glasses connected to an iPod or similar device is the future.
After that, it will be just a small matter of positioning the viewing display chips in the glasses to allow a forward view so that millions of drivers can watch video while driving their automobiles back and forth to work. Boy, is that going to be fun. |
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| Frank Ireland |
Posted: Nov 13 2005, 04:31 PM
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I also use Razor 3-D/e-dimensional equipment (LCD shutter glasses with DVD movies). The 3-D effect ranges from okay to great (depending on the movie), but the flicker problem is terrible. Viewing in a dark room helps, but not enough.
Is there any affordable 3-D system that you can use to watch field-sequential 3-D on TV without so much flicker? Has anyone tried out e-dimensional's 2-D to 3-D converter? I have not tried it, but am curious. Frank Ireland |
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| HolographicData |
Posted: Nov 13 2005, 07:34 PM
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As I understand it, this seems to be another "wear goggles and see alternating dual images" simulated 3D system.
----------------------------------------------------------- Although not yet in production, I think that true 3D television would come from laser/micro-mirror technologies such as the following -- Johnathan Keats, The Holographic Television: Think Reality TV Isn’t Realistic? Watch This, Popular Science, 2005. "Garner is working with a display composed of layers of microthin LCD panels, each of which can, when electrically charged, be made clear or opaque." http://www.popsci.com/popsci/whatsnew/569f...ecbccdrcrd.html V. M. Bove, Jr., W. J. Plesniak, T. Quentmeyer, and J. Barabas, Real-Time Holographic Video Images with Commodity PC Hardware, Proc. SPIE Stereoscopic Displays and Applications, v. 5664A, 2005. "The MIT second-generation holographic video system is a real-time electro-holographic display." http://web.media.mit.edu/~vmb/papers/5664A-28.pdf HoloForum: News & Views on the Field of Holographic Technology, Holographic Technology Products, "Marketing, Animation, Television, Movies" http://www.holoforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=7 |
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| Savant |
Posted: Nov 14 2005, 07:07 AM
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Have to agree with the first poster here - this technology is nothing new at all. There are 3 relatively effective methods of producing 3D video/display - the old dichromatic blue/red green/red for one, but that's pretty horrible, then there is the nicest-looking variety (and the one everyone who uses 2 projectors is doing), which uses polarized filters set at 90 degrees - and then there's the method IBM is using with shutter glasses and high refresh.
While this is technically the most demanding method (try getting cameras that shoot at high fps/res, you'll see what I mean, playback is easier), it certainly does not produce the nicest results - like the first poster said, there are sync issues even with the best of equipment. Now I wonder why this is being pushed as news...also, how they managed to produce 100+ Hz on a regular TV is quite beyond me - most computer CRTs don't like high refresh rates very well, much less ones for TV where the refresh rate is usually fixed. All in all, amusing enough, but hardly newsworthy. |
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| Lonk |
Posted: Nov 14 2005, 02:28 PM
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Regular computer CRT monitors today have refresh rates that go as high as 160 hz (depends on the resolution you use) if they made it on a tv im guessing they used a not-so-high resolution. But yea soon companies will be selling the ibm high fps 3d tv + ibm 3d viewing shutter glasses *cough* e-dimensional ripoff *cough*, anyways i suppose this will be expensiver than most will be willing to pay.
Hm, what do you mean video glasses? Are you talking about those old glasses that have small screens on the eyes that companies used to call V.R. glasses like a decade ago? |
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| Guest_Chris |
Posted: Nov 29 2005, 05:19 AM
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Why must everyone associate the advancing in the quality of visuals to the Halo series,which happens to be the most mindless game this earth has ever witnessed?
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