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> The Unified Fields, Light and Gravity
Nick
Posted: Nov 8 2005, 04:51 AM


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I like to point out: Light is a DUAL WAVE. It is both a magnetic wave and an electric wave together. I believe this dual wave was the first unified field.

I have another: Light Falls/Gravitates


It is Einsteins dream of uniting the electromagnetic field with gravity.


Light Falls is both light and gravity combined. You can see this unified field by what gravity does to light as it falls; by understanding that light slows down in gravity's slower time as it also follows a curve in space. Light's energy in turn curves space.

Light gravitates is also both gravity and light combined. Light's gravity field is similar to what we call gravity waves. Light has its cuvature moving through space at C. Gravity waves though are just plain curvature moving at the speed of light.

So all the interactions of light and gravity are explained by:
Light falls and gravitates.

Einstein didn't realize he already had it!

This is great!
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gushens
Posted: Nov 8 2005, 06:32 AM


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Yes but nothing new. Everybody knows that high energy (light) curves space and causes gravity. EM and gravity are already unified. they just won't tell ya in CNN biggrin.gif
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Nick
Posted: Nov 8 2005, 06:53 AM


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QUOTE (gushens @ Nov 8 2005, 06:32 AM)
Yes but nothing new. Everybody knows that high energy (light) curves space and causes gravity. EM and gravity are already unified. they just won't tell ya in CNN biggrin.gif

Of course they're already unified. Its just a matter of seeing how simple it really is. But how do you like the way I say it gushens?

Light Falls.

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gushens
Posted: Nov 8 2005, 06:56 AM


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i thought the common sense here was that em and gravity are still not very much unified. im a newcomer here. so im wrong. sorry. biggrin.gif

ill have to think about your post, im sleepy, answer will come in 5 minutes.


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Posted: Nov 8 2005, 07:04 AM


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seeing light as the aether, it sure fills all the "empty" space. so light makes things fall through it because low-energy matter won't disrupt light's high energy fields.

i can tsee why light falls, at least in this universe.

havent understood the second part you wrote though.
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Nick
Posted: Nov 8 2005, 07:42 AM


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QUOTE (gushens @ Nov 8 2005, 07:04 AM)
seeing light as the aether, it sure fills all the "empty" space. so light makes things fall through it because low-energy matter won't disrupt light's high energy fields.

i can tsee why light falls, at least in this universe.

havent understood the second part you wrote though.

If you understand Einstein's gravity curvature you can see two things: time slows down and space-curves. So light falling would be both light slowing down because of time and light following a curve because of space.

Gravity is a continuum. And light follows this continuum. Or you can say it is pushed through it!
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Posted: Nov 8 2005, 07:31 PM


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Certainly. In a black hole , as we approach singularity, time slows down to infinity.

Light is sucked by it. So light falls biggrin.gif

But then it's the same old history, who came first? light, time or gravity?

I think both time and gravity can only be measured by an external observer. So they are fruits of the observation. Perception. Any calculation of it must be relative to the observer.

But light, light is too high energy for us to associate our perception with it. It's almost like God. God is not relative to our perception. He's absolute. We're already included into his perception. We can't peek him from outside because we are included in Him.

Unless some of us attain superluminal consciousness, than we'll be able to see light from an outer perspective, and in our superluminal calculations, light will be relative to our perception.
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Posted: Nov 8 2005, 09:12 PM


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interesting thread! I want more........ lets hear it Nick!


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Nick
Posted: Nov 9 2005, 07:13 AM


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I am wondering how light curves space. According to John Wheeler matter has two types of curvature: "Contractile" curvature where mass is at and "tide driving" curvature surrounding that mass.

I wonder since light is different than matter; since light is an unconcentrated form of mass/energy; what type of curvature would it have?

Would it look like a gravity wave which would move at the same speed?

Gushens? I have to point out that time ends first at the event horizon. That is why it is a "black" hole. Time ending infinitely redshifts light. This is commonly known.

But I say: Infinitely redshifted light or energyless light is emitted by matter at the event horizon?

PoppyCock.

This prediction of GR is its very failure. Black holes are the very failure of General Relativity. Instead time never ends and the redshift to light is finite. This means that the corresponding redshift to light remains finite; no zero energy photons!!! They're nonsense.

No infinite redshift means no vail(event horizon) at gravity's extreme. I call the extreme of gravity a "Dark" hole. Light is never overcome by gravity but merely will get redshifted the close it is emitted to the singularity.

But guess what? The singularity I mean is one that is only approached. Approaching the infinitely small is what a real singularity actually is. Density remains finite. The reason for this is that time slowing slows everything else down including the collapse that is forming this "singularity."

Imagine time going a billion times slower everything would be happening a billion times slower including the falling together of the "mass"singularity. It seems to be a riddle. The greatest gravity actually causes things to fall slower by an outsiders view. It's curious but true.

Stephen Hawking has said that GR predicts its own downfall by predicting(infinitely small) singularities. Singularities where curvature/density goes infinite.

I have pointed out what to my knowledge he never followed up on. No infinities. Finite singularities in other words.

He needed to say this. But it looks like I have to!!! tongue.gif
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