Ice Age Model, for the modirator

If you were banned why are you posting here now? Is Rubberball a sockpuppet? It's not a good idea to begin posting by saying you've returned from banishment. Why does the little you've revealed remind me of the HAB theory? So far you're beating around the bush telling us we need to be slowly introduced to 'whatever' you have in mind. Usually that means a small mountain of bullshit is forthcoming to a public forum such as this one.

This post has been edited by brucep on Oct 20 2011, 06:08 AM

well thanks for your reply? this, another well planned attack on me for no reason, only that you do not agree. I never said you have to agree.

isn't it better to take one step at a time? then you have a foundation.
that's what i am doing.

Thanks again for the kind words.

I have never seen the HAB theory, but i will take a look, thanks for pointing this out.
Do you agree with that theory or not?

inst there allot of models that you don't agree with, or is this one like every other beyond your belief system or comprehension??

This post has been edited by Rubberball on Oct 20 2011, 06:32 AM

How about speeding up the process then?

well thanks again, now that i have set the basic premiss of the bubble shifting from the southern hemisphere to the northern hemisphere by way of equilibrium, and air pressure that has found its current equilibrium over the southern pole.

I will shew how the bubble can be moved to reside over another location. The north pole. this again using basic principles.


I will add some more factors, feel free to factor in if you like. the more the better.


what takes place during an ice age?

This is were the model should go from here, showing some basic indisputable circumstances that strengthen the model of ice age period. This time frame can only be speculated upon, because no one has lived 25 thousand years, to show us otherwise.

I am sure millions of years ago the ice age was much greater, because there was a young earth with far more volcano-logy then we have today.

Im sleepy ill add more later. thanks.

This post has been edited by Rubberball on Oct 20 2011, 06:42 AM

In the end your health and happiness is more important than expounding the theory. In reality it won't win any prizes so it has to be a labour of love and if you find your love is difficult - get a divorce I would say. A stress free life is worth millions, so enjoy the day while we have it.

Didn't answer the questions? You said you were banned from posting at this site, not me. So you attacked yourself when you acknowledged banishment while making comments in physforum the very site from which you're banished. You're first post was misleading and incoherent wrt what you wanted to discuss. You may think you're discussion is moving forward but so far you haven't clarified anything.

Hi again, if you think i should clarify something than tell what you want me to clarify for you?

I cant even get past the easy stuff, because people would rather crank me for there own doctrines.

what are you defending? why?

I did check on the model you stated, and it seems im not the first person that related an axial shift with an ice age.

do you agree on the possibility that a shift in axis will cause a move in the so called
bubble i have already stated?

yes no why?

Obviously the earth is in the process of precession. Can you agree with that?

yes no why?

could you agree that the function of a level was stated correctly?

yes no why?


so far i asked several questions. Are you here to help me with this model, or to ridicule me for trying? see another question.. yes, or no ?

This post has been edited by Rubberball on Oct 20 2011, 06:01 PM

In an attempt to satisfy you, and establish a model for ice age, function, time period, causation.

Data, experimentation, references, speculation.

is this enough for you to state that i had established something so far?

Did i miss something that i should include? yes no?

what will satisfy your need of the establishment of this model? add what you hope to see in a working model..


only until you agree, disagree, or add your own model can i proceed. Is that correct? yes no?

This post has been edited by Rubberball on Oct 20 2011, 06:16 PM

premiss, a change in position, or location in relation to the celestial plane of the galaxy can cause a planetary system to reflect this change by a tilt in axial position.

By a change in equilibrium of that system in relationship to said plane. I can reflect this change in several ways.


1. by a change in location, and, or position of a body in relation to said plane. a body such as the earth may experience diverse effects. including magnetic anomaly, including a change in air flow direction, or temperature within a given system. assuming it has an atmosphere.

2. a change in Earth axis position, to whatever degree i may state may have diverse effects on the inner system, or atmosphere of said body.
This In relation to its present equilibrium, and its magnetic alignments to the stars..

3. Ice age By volcanic emissions alone, or in conjunction with a change in equilibrium of a system, and its relation to its orbit, axial position, and speed of rotation, may lead to an ice age.

4 A large meteor impact may lead to an ice age, by the blocking of solar rays to the earths surface.

I think this is enough to include before a conclusion.

All statements are true statements.. Yes or no?

This post has been edited by Rubberball on Oct 20 2011, 07:00 PM

How do we define an "Ice Age" what is the definition you are using. Volcanic eruption in Chile may have made our winter colder this year but it would take more than a single cold winter to be an ice age?

definition ice age. __ my definition a change in climate were the northern pole, southern pole, or both begin to experience a build up of ice sheet or snow cap layer, For an unidentified period of time.

wiki definition An ice age or, more precisely, glacial age, is a generic geological period of long-term reduction in the temperature of the Earth's surface and atmosphere, resulting in the presence or expansion of continental ice sheets, polar ice sheets and alpine glaciers.


very much the same do you agree?

This post has been edited by Rubberball on Oct 20 2011, 08:42 PM

If I were illiterate, I might use the same idiotic arguments. Are you Nopeda's sockpuppet?

This post has been edited by Granouille on Oct 20 2011, 09:03 PM

The basics for the reader.

there are many circumstances that can be related to an ice age, long term, or short term.

one of these circumstances has to do with the earths temperature in relation to the evaporation rate of the oceans world wide.. more evaporation, more water vapor in the atmosphere, and not in the oceans.

How can cloud cover effect the globe in relation to temperature rains, snow, oceanic currents, and airflow circulation in the system? in the same manner volcanic gasses may block out the sun. In the same manner if a deep impact was to occur here on earth, by causing the solar rays to be reflected.

this could lead to a progressive ice age, as time passes world temperatures will fall at a faster rate, more so after the blocking of solar radiation.

gasses from volcanoes can block out the sun, dust from either volcanoes, meteorite impacts, and the deforestation of the planet. ( a dust bowl world wide) . leading to a colder climate due to less solar warmth reaching the earths surface.

solar fluctuations, may lead to a cooling, or warming of earths surface. Both can lead to an ice age.

Axis position can lead to a warming, and cooling in one hemisphere over the other.
Non equilibrium.

these factors seem to answer all of the possible circumstances related to ice age periods.

what other factors do you have in mind?
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Are you a troll or a fool?

Those are my only questions for you.

So the restoration of the glaciers say as has happened in the last 200 years is not an ice age. So if they are able to partially reverse global warming they are not starting off an ice age?