Question For Rpenner..., Do you deem this ACCEPTABLE?...

... use of the feedback option?

Trout Posted: Oct 6 2009, 12:31 AM
Negative -
Trout Posted: Jul 14 2009, 10:00 PM
Negative -
Trout Posted: Jun 28 2009, 04:58 PM
Negative -
Trout Posted: Jun 17 2009, 11:21 PM
Negative -
Trout Posted: Jun 10 2009, 02:31 PM
Negative -

These feedback comments, of course, are posted in reference to another poster who posted most recently today, and prior to that, on January 16, 2009. Specifically, I refer to RealityCheck.

Trout, and posters like him... they are the "gift" that just never seems to stop giving, eh?

Wherefore the suspension of First Amendement privileges (whether for 10 days or for forever...) you seem so keen on (when you do not agree with the poster's views) for such as he?

A very, very puzzling question, indeed...

Best,
Raphie

P.S. My motivation, RPenner? To encourage you to EXPLICITLY...

Sanctify or denounce Trout's conduct upon this forum...

This post has been edited by Raphie Frank on Oct 27 2009, 06:41 AM

Have you ever truly considered the possibility that you are just plain wrong? It's true, and Trout knows it.

Raphie, have you ever seen a child in the middle of a store or mall simply stop walking and throw himself on the ground, crying and screaming?

That's what you're doing now.
I know you're smart enough to know that rpenner doesn't care about feedback abuse except in extreme cases (FAIRY and clones, for instance), that Trout has very good reasons for his (admittedly overzealous) distaste for RC and that nothing positive will come from this post. You know all of these things, just as the child knows his temper tantrum will not get him what he wants nor is he entitled to whatever it is he didn't get which set it off, yet you persists in your tantrum anyway.
Why?

I was looking in RC's feedback and started laughing when I saw this:

Refuses to actually learn any physics/mathematics. Doesn't possess enough intellect to take onboard modern theory, so continues to wave his arms around, converse with other idiots and pretend he's doing something profound.

Worth reading his posts, good source of entertainment.

Exactly how is being banned from a web forum a suspension of First Amendment rights?

Unless you live in North Korea or a similar country, your argument is over-dramatic and dishonest.

Really basic stuff...

You can walk into any public building and say what you want.

You can't come into my home unbidden and say whatever you want.

You don't pay for this forum, it's not yours, so it's not your home. If the owners want to kick you out, it's their right and they don't have to justify it.

If you want to say whatever you want, you can start and admin your own forum.

Clever!

This sounds like the title of a PhD thesis: public and private approaches to regulating shared webspace and discourse (free to anyone willing to cite my screen name and this forum url as the source of their PhD title

Seriously, though, I think the issue comes down to power and privilege to regulate the forum however and get away with it. I have found that the quality of what I read on this forum keeps me coming back after getting banned, anyway - and trying to be more respectful and valuable in my posts. I think this causes me to strive to be a better person, even though I hate those days when I can't access the site (I don't know how the anonymous users manage to log in or I would probably do that).

This post has been edited by light in the tunnel on Oct 28 2009, 12:44 AM

Are you sure about that?

It was a general statement.

In specific, it depends on what country you are in and what the laws are. Here in Canada, certain forms of free speech are not allowed... for example hate speech is not legal.

I consider this possibility always, FB. How about you tell me how you believe I am "wrong" so that I might adequately (or inadequately... based upon the relative viewpoint) respond?

Best,
RF

P.S. Would you mind expanding on your understanding of the manner of TRUTH that Trout posesses?

This post has been edited by Raphie Frank on Oct 28 2009, 07:31 AM

Hey Rob, Derek is a retired cop... think he might know a thing or two you do not?

Best,
RF

I disagree with you occidental, but we can save this specific topic for another time.

Why (from a selfish point of view?)?

I desire (selfishly) RPenner to make, in essence, the same statement you just made, but from the standpoint of self-procliamed greater knowledge and understanding. Should he echo your views, I will have a thing or two or even three or more to state in response.

Best,
RF

This post has been edited by Raphie Frank on Oct 28 2009, 07:41 AM

In my experience the police know very little about how the law works, especially laws that deal with freedom of expression.

A police officer's training with regards to the law is geared entirely towards determining whether or not a reasonable person would conclude that a law has been broken, and by whom. In this case, Derek's training shows.

If, for example, you go into a public building and proclaim loudly that the wrath of God will shortly descend upon that building and cleanse the wicked from the face of the earth, you will shortly find yourself in jail.

Of course, this doesn't change the fact that nobody is constitutionally guaranteed a voice in this forum. You may certainly have the right to start your own forum and make whatever claims you wish to make, but no post-industrial nation has ever ruled that the freedom of speech applies to privately-managed forums (I don't just mean internet forums, I mean any forum for speech). In fact, to my knowledge, every post-industrial nation has ruled that the freedom of speech is specifically not applicable to speech made in a privately-managed forum.
After all, let's not forget that the owners and regulators of this site have the same right to free speech as anyone else. Since anything said on this site is reflective of them (even if it doesn't originate with them), forcing them to allow content that they or their appointed representatives deem contrary to their own views would be an oppression on their freedoms.

Raphie, your whining about freedom of speech are pointless, wrong, and downright stupid.