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| Edward 3 |
Posted: Dec 16 2009, 10:52 AM
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Did you not read the full article Geoff? The following is of some importance -, particularly the bit I have highlighted: Even with that kind of hardware, IBM's brain-like computer is still years, if not decades, away from reality. Jim Olds, the director of George Mason University's Krasnow Institute for Advanced Study, points out that even limiting itself to a cat brain, IBM's simulation still only captures about 10% to 20% of the relevant information in the neurons it simulates. That could be a major hurdle, given that neuroscientists don't yet know which parts of the brain's physiology may turn out to be key to its function. "There are unknown unknowns," says Olds. "Things that aren't in the model might be crucial." |
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| Guest |
Posted: Dec 16 2009, 01:08 PM
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So in response to: Quote lexlibris1299 "In my opinion, no matter how intelligent we are, we cannot create a human-like intelligence. I remember 2 movies about this, bicentennial man and artificial intelligence. Or other related movies like terminator, matrix and the so many cloning stuffs." I stated "IMO you're totally wrong, as we've already initiated steps towards this goal." So what you're saying is; the IMB project article I linked has no relevance to first steps towards creating a future computer with Human intelligence. Obviously you've suffered horrendous brain injury recently, exacerbating your previous former numbskull condition by a factor of 27. |
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| Bivalves |
Posted: Dec 16 2009, 01:11 PM
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Whoops - b.t.w that's my post above and it should be IBM not IMB.
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| buttershug |
Posted: Dec 16 2009, 01:44 PM
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The Forbin Project is a good movie on the subject. In fact there are several. I guess you are not a movie fan or you would have seen more. -------------------- If you want to keep believing in the Wizard, never look behind the curtain. You will be disappointed.
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| Edward 3 |
Posted: Dec 16 2009, 02:22 PM
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1.We do not yet know enough about Mind/Brain/Intelligence/Consciousness to make a claim that we can build a human-like intelligence. It would be completely erroneous to presume that replicating all of the parts that constitute a human brain would result in an entity that would function in the same way as a human intelligence. 2. Why 27 ? This post has been edited by Edward 3 on Dec 16 2009, 02:23 PM |
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| Bivalves |
Posted: Dec 16 2009, 07:29 PM
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1. Intelligence IMHO is a capacity to comprehend patterns and to use them in a holistic approach to create understanding - remember, I replied to someone who said "We cannot create a human-like intelligence" .... I beg to differ. 2. 27? ....... Some random number that I like. This post has been edited by Bivalves on Dec 16 2009, 07:29 PM -------------------- Mission statement: "Making it my business to clam-up mouth foaming chowderheads, delusion sodden fuckwits and faking imbeciles".
Don't mess with the mussel, 'cause pissing off this son of a beach shell coast you dearly. ie;- amongst other horrendously painful things, your cockle drop off. Mollusc of the Forum Mafia. mott.carl genius: "molusc- you has mind of molusc,correct,and your mother is something.... dr.wolf-big fool the doc -retarded mental-great idiot geoff molusc-do need say someone? " |
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| Edward 3 |
Posted: Dec 16 2009, 08:22 PM
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If we are to create a human-type intelligence, or indeed assess the likelihood of doing so, the first step would seem to be a coherent definition of what we mean by that term. The definition which you put forward, and on which you base your assertion, seems somewhat limited - perhaps somewhat weighted in favour of a rather mechanistic/computational concept of intelligence that may not include creative/artistic endeavour or more abstract thought processes.
One recognises that you present your views as being the manifistation of your humble opinion - but one remains unconvinced that humility is one of your distinguishing characteristics |
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| uaafanblog |
Posted: Dec 16 2009, 08:51 PM
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Puhlease ... -------------------- I been stuffed in your pocket for the last hundred days, when I don't get my bath I take it out on the slaves. So grease up your baby for a ball on the hill, I'll polish them rockets now and swallow those pills and say ....
Ahhhhhh .... Spacelord mutha mutha. -- Monster Magnet -- It is offensive and ruinous, something to be avoided at all cost, for a nonbeliever to hear a Christian talking about these things as though with Christian writings as his source, and yet so nonsensically and with such obvious error that the nonbeliever can hardly keep from laughing. -- St. Augustine -- I laugh a lot in the Evolution/Creation section of this forum. |
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| uaafanblog |
Posted: Dec 16 2009, 08:55 PM
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Oops ... with regard to my post immediately above, allow me to apologize for not seeing your primary recognition of same. That being the case ... I second your most astute observation. -------------------- I been stuffed in your pocket for the last hundred days, when I don't get my bath I take it out on the slaves. So grease up your baby for a ball on the hill, I'll polish them rockets now and swallow those pills and say ....
Ahhhhhh .... Spacelord mutha mutha. -- Monster Magnet -- It is offensive and ruinous, something to be avoided at all cost, for a nonbeliever to hear a Christian talking about these things as though with Christian writings as his source, and yet so nonsensically and with such obvious error that the nonbeliever can hardly keep from laughing. -- St. Augustine -- I laugh a lot in the Evolution/Creation section of this forum. |
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| Bivalves |
Posted: Dec 16 2009, 10:28 PM
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Another 5 Centuries of mind-boosting drug treatment and you'll be almost coherent, dear drooling imbecile. -------------------- Mission statement: "Making it my business to clam-up mouth foaming chowderheads, delusion sodden fuckwits and faking imbeciles".
Don't mess with the mussel, 'cause pissing off this son of a beach shell coast you dearly. ie;- amongst other horrendously painful things, your cockle drop off. Mollusc of the Forum Mafia. mott.carl genius: "molusc- you has mind of molusc,correct,and your mother is something.... dr.wolf-big fool the doc -retarded mental-great idiot geoff molusc-do need say someone? " |
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| uaafanblog |
Posted: Dec 16 2009, 11:19 PM
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Amongst many things, you fail immeasurably at judging anyone else's intelligence. It's clear to any reader that (if nothing else) I'm quite capable of handling complex conversation. That alone dispels your petty immature suggestion otherwise. So congratulations again on a series of interactions here where you expose your true nature. It's an interesting sort of self-hating philosophy but ultimately it may perhaps teach you something about yourself. We can all hope so. Until that time I'd recommend you continue with your usual sycophant paradigm of following esteemed community members around and reinforcing their refutations with the same lack of aplomb as you've displayed here. No reason to give up on something that's been working for you for so long eh? I'd expect some subset of those respected folk probably enjoy having a little cheerleading biatch shoving her nose up their arse. -------------------- I been stuffed in your pocket for the last hundred days, when I don't get my bath I take it out on the slaves. So grease up your baby for a ball on the hill, I'll polish them rockets now and swallow those pills and say ....
Ahhhhhh .... Spacelord mutha mutha. -- Monster Magnet -- It is offensive and ruinous, something to be avoided at all cost, for a nonbeliever to hear a Christian talking about these things as though with Christian writings as his source, and yet so nonsensically and with such obvious error that the nonbeliever can hardly keep from laughing. -- St. Augustine -- I laugh a lot in the Evolution/Creation section of this forum. |
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| Edward 3 |
Posted: Dec 17 2009, 11:15 AM
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I think I preferred your more succinct response. How one, well chosen word can say so much! |
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| Matador |
Posted: Dec 17 2009, 11:32 AM
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