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| Alex The Great |
Posted: Jul 23 2005, 08:38 AM
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Cannot solve this:
tg0 - tg 80 (the answer written in the textbook is 0.. why?) Equations : ------------------- | 2^X*9^Y=162 | 3^X*4^Y=48 |------------------ cos(a + b ) = cos a*cos b - sin a*sin b cos(a - b ) = cos a*cos b - sin a*sin b cos(p/2 - a ) = sin a sin(p/2 - a ) = cos a cos(p/2 - b ) = sin b How do I write sin( a + b ) and sin(a - b ) using the formulae above? How do I form the sine formulae out of these ones, in short? Please help ! |
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Posted: Jul 23 2005, 04:16 PM
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There are various ways you can go at it, but I think a good visualization of this problem can be done with a factor tree: 162 / \ 18 9 you can try 81 and 2 also / \ 2 9 Just count the number of 9's and 2's to get their exponents: (9^2)(2^1)=162 You can also try traditional division and multiplication, just remember that sqrtX is X^1/2, cbrtX is x^1/3, etc. and X^a^b = x^(ab) I'll let you find 3^X*4^Y=48 on your own, now that you know two methods. Also: sin(A+ sin(A- Note: These 2 can be derived from the Pythagorean theorem a^2+b^2=c^2, although it does take a while. |
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| JavaTool |
Posted: Jul 23 2005, 04:27 PM
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Sorry, forgot to sign in. FYI, those
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| Alex The Great |
Posted: Jul 23 2005, 04:52 PM
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Hmmm, I tried to solve both of the equations by multiplicating...I got this : 3^5-2y*4^y=48. And I got stuck.. x=5-2y.
You haven't understood. I do know these formulae The fact is that... well, let's presume that I have only cos(a + b ) = cos a*cos b - sin a*sin b cos(a - b ) = cos a*cos b - sin a*sin b cos(p/2 - a ) = sin a sin(p/2 - a ) = cos a cos(p/2 - b ) = sin b (i.e. I dunno the original sin( a + b ) and sin ( a - b ) formulae). How do I get sin( a + b ) and sin(a - b ) out of what I wrote above? |
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| huskerdrew76 |
Posted: Jul 23 2005, 05:00 PM
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I think the easiest way to do the first problem is as follows:
(2^x)*(9^y)=162 & (3^x)*(4^y)=48 search for a simple solution and check first if you divide 162 by 9 twice you can rewrite as: (2^x)*(9^(y-2))=2 now divide each side by 2 (2^(x-1))*(9^(y-2))=1 and anything raised to the zero power = 1 with 1*1=1 this is not the only solution but rather a simple solution. Much the same as the checking method of roots explained above. So we set.. x-1=0 and y-2=0 x=1 y=2 if you check it it works in both eqns |
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| nikhil Murgai |
Posted: Jul 24 2005, 01:17 AM
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take log both sides
x log(2) + y log(9) = log(162) x log(3) + y log(4) = log(48) solve simultaneously from there onwards |
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| Jack |
Posted: Jul 24 2005, 02:11 AM
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I'm guessing that in your case you did it this way (I'm going to use 90=pi/2 for simplicity): sin(a+ Since cos(90)=0 we ignore that term and sin(90)=1 so we can leave that out => sin(a+ circular reasoning Well, the idea was right, just: sin(x)=cos[90-(a+ And we use the cosine of difference of angle identiy and...: =cos(90-a)*cos( =sin(a)*cos( |
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| Jack |
Posted: Jul 24 2005, 02:12 AM
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I'm guessing that in your case you did it this way (I'm going to use 90=pi/2 for simplicity): sin(a+ Since cos(90)=0 we ignore that term and sin(90)=1 so we can leave that out => sin(a+ circular reasoning Well, the idea was right, just: sin(x)=cos(90-(a+ And we use the cosine of difference of angle identiy and...: =cos(90-a)*cos( =sin(a)*cos( |
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| Jack |
Posted: Jul 24 2005, 02:13 AM
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...darn, well, you get the idea.
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