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Sylwester Kornowski
Posted: Oct 10 2008, 01:37 PM


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In my opinion, the origin of the broken symmetry is not associated with the three families of quarks. On base of the Quantum Chromodynamics expected that quark-gluon plasma will behave as a gas but experiments show that it behaves as liquid-like substance. It suggests that the Standard Model does not describe nature correctly. I obtained much better results assuming that between the components of baryons is exchanged elementary electric charge.
Students do not want to learn the theory of broken symmetry because it is very difficult. Probably they feel that nature is much simpler. What do I think about the broken symmetry?
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Broken Symmetry
We can derive whole nature from physical properties of spacetime and the mass density of the chaotic vectorial field (responsible for the electromagnetic interactions) composed of the binary systems of neutrinos.
In the vectorial field appear spontaneous fluctuations. Because the fundamental field, i.e. spacetime, is composed of tachyons having the eternal linear and rotational energy, then thickening fluctuation transforms into vortex having internal helicity. Resultant helicity and angular velocity associated with spinning of vortices must be equal to zero. It means that the rotary vortices (they look similarly as the tropical cyclones) arise as the vortex-antivortex pairs. It was the first era of the broken symmetry of the chaotic vectorial field. This broken symmetry is associated with production of the rotary vortices having spin and internal helicity. Distance between the vortex and antivortex should be shorter than the range of the gravitational forces (about 2•10^36 m – it is about 10 billions times greater distance than the present radius of the Universe) and sufficiently bigger than the radii of the vortices to not annihilate too quickly. In both components of the vortex-antivortex pair, the creations of the electron-positron pairs were possible. When mass density inside vortex was sufficiently high, in the left-handed vortex appeared the positron-proton transitions whereas in the right-handed one the electron-antiproton transitions. It was the second era of the broken symmetry of the field composed of the binary systems of neutrinos. When mass of a vortex is strictly determined then there is possible the vortex-->object-before-big-bang-suited-to-life transition. Our rotary vortex was left-handed and there were created the left-handed protons and next the left-handed neutrons. From the neutrons where created the torus, the point mass in the centre of torus and the loop inside torus composed of the protogalaxies – they consisted of the greatest neutron stars. Because of the four-neutrino symmetry and the gravitational charges of the neutrinos, the protogalaxies grouped in larger structures already before big bang. Because the internal energy of neutrino is equal to the mass of the object before big bang suited to life, one ‘day’, there was the object-before-big-bang-suited-to-life-->neutrino transition. It caused that the early Universe (i.e. the loop) started the intensive evaporation caused by the beta decays of the neutrons and next the electric repulsion of the protons. The appearing of the electron-antineutrinos from the beta decays of the neutrons in the chaotic vectorial field was the third episode in history of evolution of the left-handed rotary vortex leading to the broken symmetry of the chaotic vectorial field. The present symmetry of the Universe is broken because before the creation of the new neutrino, the angular velocities of the massive spiral galaxies were antiparallel to the N-->S directions of their magnetic fields. Today symmetry is broken also because of the electron-proton asymmetry and because the chaotic vectorial field contains more the electron-antineutrinos.

Creation of electrons
From the Compton length of electron, we can calculate the time of vanishing of it whereas the state-lifetime of electron is the 2(pi) times longer. Slowly moving electron has state-lifetime equal to about 10^-20 s. It means that within one second electron appears in 10^20 places of the chaotic vectorial field. It leads to the wave function. Electron, when ‘going’ through a set of slits (electron only appears whereas the wave function is going), appears many times in each slit. We cannot say that electron is going only through one slit.
Spin of the elementary objects (i.e. the closed string, neutrino, core of baryon and object before big bang suited to life) we can calculate from the mvr. The renewable particles arise in different way. There appears in the chaotic vectorial field binary system of entangled loops having different internal helicity because then resultant internal helicity of the chaotic vectorial field is not broken. The resultant energy of the entangled loops multiplied by period of spinning must be equal to h because then internal spin of the chaotic vectorial field is not broken - it is the reason why carriers of interactions associated with this field have unitary spin. Two entangled loops must have two times (or always) per period of rotation of spins, the same direction and senses of spins. It means that two entangled loops create only one divergent field – it breaks symmetry of the chaotic vectorial field. It enforces immediate transition (it is possible because spacetime is composed of the tachyons moving with speed about 8•10^88 times higher than the light in spacetime) of the two entangled loops into a positive-negative pair of source. The Compton length of electron it is the radius of the loop. With the entangled loops are associated two tori as the polarised chaotic vectorial field. Surfaces of the tori look as the Ketterle surface for a strongly interacting Fermi gas discovered in 2005. The loops overlap with the equators of the tori. The binary systems of neutrinos the loops are composed of make the half-turns on the circular axis of torus and in centre of it because in those places the lines of electric forces, created by the polarised binary systems of neutrinos the torus is composed of, change their senses. It means that with torus, i.e. with the electric charge should be associated the half of the mass of the bare electron whereas the second half of the bare mass is associated with the centre of torus i.e. with the point mass of electron. The half-turns of the exchanged binary systems of neutrinos increase their energies in such way the electron always has the half-integral spin. Only creation of the torus-antitorus pair does not break the symmetry because the spins of the binary systems of neutrinos the tori are composed of are perpendicular to the surfaces of the tori. All spins either have the senses pointed to the interior of torus or pointed outside the surface. It leads to conclusion that there arises one divergent and one convergent field. Outside of the bare electron, arise the virtual electron-positron pairs. Some part of photon can be outside of the occupied states in atom.

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QUOTE (Sylwester Kornowski @ Oct 10 2008, 02:37 PM)
On base of the Quantum Chromodynamics expected that quark-gluon plasma will behave as a gas but experiments show that it behaves as liquid-like substance.

Still haven't learnt anything about deconfinement.

QCD (particularly via Lattice QCD and AdS/CFT) correctly predicts/explains/models the behaviour of high density nucleons.
QUOTE (Sylwester Kornowski @ Oct 10 2008, 02:37 PM)
Students do not want to learn the theory of broken symmetry because it is very difficult.
No, students have no problem learning such a theory, you're the one who doesn't want to learn it.


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QUOTE (AlphaNumeric @ Oct 10 2008, 02:45 PM)
Still haven't learnt anything about deconfinement.

QCD (particularly via Lattice QCD and AdS/CFT) correctly predicts/explains/models the behaviour of high density nucleons.
No, students have no problem learning such a theory, you're the one who doesn't want to learn it.

Alpha Numeric, you suggest that you understand the mechanism of the broken symmetry. In connexion with it, can you answer following questions?
Why today creations of new electrons are impossible?
Why the new electrons arise only as the electron-positron pairs?
What is internal structure of electron?
The mainstream theory associated with the broken symmetry cannot answer these questions.

A propos: Gas is not a liquid-like substance. The QCD predicted the quark-gluon gas, not a liquid-like substance. You are right that they both are the plasma.

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QUOTE (Fairy @ Oct 10 2008, 02:40 PM)
I think you will need more than just an opinion. How about some researched data and peer reviewed papers?

In the scientific journals is place only for glorification of the quarks. Try to publish that the quarks we can replace by the observed FREE particles and that then the obtained results are much better.

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QUOTE (Sylwester Kornowski @ Oct 10 2008, 08:08 PM)
Alpha Numeric, you suggest that you understand the mechanism of the broken symmetry.

Certainly more so than you. But then you don't understand anything about mainstream quantum theory.

The 2008 Nobel Prize for physics has been given to 3 physicists who worked on broken symmetries!
QUOTE (Sylwester Kornowski @ Oct 10 2008, 08:08 PM)
Why today creations of new electrons are impossible?
Because we haven't created the conditions needed to allow for broken CP symmetry, which is what is needed to create an excess of leptons. Even then, when you create electrons you'd need to create particles which have positive charge. CP violation doesn't mean electromagnetic charge conservation is broken.
QUOTE (Sylwester Kornowski @ Oct 10 2008, 08:08 PM)
Why the new electrons arise only as the electron-positron pairs?
Because at the energies we currently create lepton number is conserved so for every electron you need an antilepton and since charge conservation is not broken, you need that antilepton to have positive charge. Hence the positron.
QUOTE (Sylwester Kornowski @ Oct 10 2008, 08:08 PM)
What is internal structure of electron?
Strawman. No experiment says it has internal structure and so it's a question which has no experimental validity.

It is equivalent, on experimental grounds, to physicists saying "Everything is made of strings, hence string theory". There's no experimental support for that so your "It's all made of neutrinos" has as much experimental support as string theory's claim it's made of strings. Except string theory has tons of theoretical niceties.
QUOTE (Sylwester Kornowski @ Oct 10 2008, 08:08 PM)
The mainstream theory associated with the broken symmetry cannot answer these questions.
The fact you know nothing about CP violation doesn't mean it doesn't address these points.
QUOTE (Sylwester Kornowski @ Oct 10 2008, 08:08 PM)
A propos: Gas is not a liquid-like substance. The QCD predicted the quark-gluon gas, not a liquid-like substance. You are right that they both are the plasma.
Gases and liquids are both fluids. QCD correctly predicts the kind of properties we see in deconfined high nucleon density collisions. You refuse to even learn what QCD predicts, but that doesn't mean it doesn't predict such things.


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QUOTE (Sylwester Kornowski @ Oct 10 2008, 07:08 PM)
Why today creations of new electrons are impossible?
Why the new electrons arise only as the electron-positron pairs?
What is internal structure of electron?

Wrong^2

About 10,000 muons reach every square meter of the earth's surface a minute, nearly all of the time, they decay into an electron, an electron-antineutrino, and a muon-neutrino. (wiki source)
As for electron structure; I've a crank concept; a hypertoroidal to ring singularity system, operating from a relativiso-geometric duality about a auto-dynamically created event horizon.


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QUOTE (Fairy @ Oct 11 2008, 02:14 AM)
There are multiple parts to this question. The first question is "is there a global baryon asymmetry (the technical term for the matter-antimatter asymmetry) or are there pockets of matter and pockets of antimatter?" We don't really know the answer to this, but we do know that if there are pockets, they are quite large - perhaps 100 Mpc across. We know this because we don't see evidence of nearby annihilation radiation.

The second question is whether there were enough primordial black holes to force an asymmetry. I don't know for sure, but I suspect that the answer is "no". If the expected asymmetry was due to chance alone, it would mean you'd end up with an excess that is about the size of the square root of the number of PBH's. For example, a 10% matter-antimatter asymmetry would mean ~100 PBH's. A 1% asymmetry would mean ~10,000 PBH's.

The problem is that there's not enough dark matter out there. There is ~8x as much dark matter (including PBH's) as ordinary matter, which would suggest only 64 PBHs. We know that dark matter is very smoothly distributed, and we would need many trillions of them, not just 64. So this doesn't work out well quantitatively.

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All observational facts suggest that inside our Universe are not regions filled with antimatter greater than a particle-antiparticle size. For me is obvious that in symmetrical fields probability of creations of matter and antimatter must be the same. There is not good explanation for spacetime asymmetry. It suggests that asymmetry is associated with the field/background responsible for the electromagnetic interactions. Asymmetry should arise before the big bang. We see that all particles arise as the particle-antiparticle pairs. It suggests also that the object before big bang should arise as the object-antiobject pair - see my theory.

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QUOTE (AlphaNumeric)
The 2008 Nobel Prize for physics has been given to 3 physicists who worked on broken symmetries!


In my opinion, the Nobel Prize for physics the 7 times has been given to physicists for theories do not describing nature (also in 2008). There is the LHC. We must wait for the evidences.

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Because we haven't created the conditions needed to allow for broken CP symmetry, which is what is needed to create an excess of leptons. Even then, when you create electrons you'd need to create particles which have positive charge. CP violation doesn't mean electromagnetic charge conservation is broken.


Then why some baryons arose just after the beginning of the big bang without the antiparticles? If it was possible then why is not possible today?

QUOTE (AlphaNumeric)
Because at the energies we currently create lepton number is conserved so for every electron you need an antilepton and since charge conservation is not broken, you need that antilepton to have positive charge. Hence the positron.


Can you see that it explains nothing? My question was why there are created the electron-positron pairs? Why do not arise, for example, entangled loop-antiloop pairs?

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Strawman. No experiment says it has internal structure and so it's a question which has no experimental validity.
It is equivalent, on experimental grounds, to physicists saying "Everything is made of strings, hence string theory". There's no experimental support for that so your "It's all made of neutrinos" has as much experimental support as string theory's claim it's made of strings. Except string theory has tons of theoretical niceties.


Bare electron has spin, electric charge, mass, radius equal to the Compton wave and you say that it has not internal structure? Are you physicist?
You are not right about the neutrinos because in the energetic collisions of the ions we observe big number of neutrinos. There is also not solved the unitary problem – we see more the scattered neutrinos that the falling.

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Gases and liquids are both fluids. QCD correctly predicts the kind of properties we see in deconfined high nucleon density collisions. You refuse to even learn what QCD predicts, but that doesn't mean it doesn't predict such things.


No. See: J.Stachel; Has the Quark-Gluon Plasma been seen? http://arxiv.org/abs/nucl-ex/0510077 (2005)

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QUOTE (ASTERIX* @ Oct 11 2008, 07:09 AM)
Wrong^2

About 10,000 muons reach every square meter of the earth's surface a minute, nearly all of the time, they decay into an electron, an electron-antineutrino, and a muon-neutrino. (wiki source)
As for electron structure; I've a crank concept; a hypertoroidal to ring singularity system, operating from a relativiso-geometric duality about a auto-dynamically created event horizon.

You forgot that the observed muons arose as the muon-antimuon pairs or as the charged pion-antipion pairs.

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QUOTE (Fairy @ Oct 11 2008, 08:12 AM)
lol buddy


dont make a fool of yourself in front off all the learned people on this forum

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...learned as you?

Where are your scientific arguments?

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QUOTE (Sylwester Kornowski @ Oct 11 2008, 08:35 AM)
You forgot that the observed muons arose as the muon-antimuon pairs or as the charged pion-antipion pairs.

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You said: QUOTE (Sylwester Kornowski @ Oct 10 2008, 07:08 PM)
Why today creations of new electrons are impossible?
Why the new electrons arise only as the electron-positron pairs?

I then proved you're a complete dumbass, by promptly supplying evidence to the contrary.

Then because you're a absolutely brainfucked, howling syndromic retard, you replied with;"You forgot that the observed muons arose as the muon-antimuon pairs or as the charged pion-antipion pairs."

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Some people cannot understand the fundamental problems associated with broken symmetry.

In some region of cosmos, arise more baryons than antibaryons only when are satisfied following conditions
1 The region has ALREADY broken symmetry
2 In some other region of cosmos, simultaneously, arose more antibaryons than baryons
3 These two regions of cosmos arise as entangled objects – particles or larger objects or fluctuations of fields entangle due to the gravitational interactions
4 Density of the regions is sufficiently high to transform positrons into protons in one region and electrons into antiprotons in the another one

Nobody can explain the mechanism leading to a broken symmetry if cannot answer following questions
1 What is the origin of the FIRST TIME BROKEN SYMMETRY?
2 Why symmetry of spacetime can be broken only in the phase transitions of fields?

Even E.Witten said that he does not know what mechanism associated with the string/M theory the first time broke symmetry.

We can answer above questions within my new theory of particles and new cosmology.
Only two fields (i.e. spacetime responsible for the gravitational interactions and the chaotic vectorial field responsible for the electromagnetic interactions) are the long-distance interactions so these fields must fill infinite volume. It is obvious that the first time broken symmetry should be associated with fluctuations in these fields in such way that the RESULTANT SYMMETRIES of these fields were not broken. Why the resultant symmetries never can be broken? It results from the very high pressures inside these two predominant fields (respectively about 10^179 Pa and 10^45 Pa). It means that in these fields arise only entangled particle-antiparticle pairs. There cannot arise more baryons than antibaryons or the vice versa. When in our part of cosmos were, for example, realised the positron-proton transitions then in some other part of cosmos, practically simultaneously, were realized the electron-antiproton transitions. The words ‘practically simultaneously’ are associated with the fact that particles are entangled due to the gravitational interactions carried with speed 8•10^88 times higher than the speed of light in spacetime.

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QUOTE (eyeque @ Oct 12 2008, 03:45 PM)
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Hi
How are you?
I try to show that when we reject the quarks we obtain theoretical results much more consistent with the experimental data and observational facts.
I try to show that the positrons can transform into protons only in regions of cosmos already with broken symmetry i.e. I try to show that in our region of cosmos symmetry was broken already before the big bang.
I try to show that proton has the same electric charge as positron because the torus of proton arises due to the shrinking contraction of the torus of positron. They both are composed of the same number of the dipoles the chaotic vectorial field is composed of. Each such dipole creates one line of electric force. The torus of positron it is only the polarized chaotic vectorial field whereas the dipoles on the surface of the torus of proton are in distance about 554.3 times smaller than on the surface of positron and they attract one another because in such distance there arise streams in spacetime. Inside such streams is negative pressure i.e. there appears attractive force between the dipoles. Both the surfaces of the tori look similarly as the Ketterle surface for a strongly interacting gas discovered in 2005.

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