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> Did I ever exist before now?, title says it all
 
do you feel/think like you might have had a prior existence?
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Bodhidharma
Posted on Jul 7 2005, 11:10 PM


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Ever wonder why we are alive now instead of 100 years ago or a 1,000, out of all the eras of human existence I find this to be the most satisfying for many reasons.

1) people today are more enlightened than ever, (one exception maybe ancient Greece or Atlantis if it ever existed) 50 years ago we had separate water fountains and schools, go back 200+ years and there was man enslaving his fellow man +2000 years and people would bleed themselves to release their evil demons what kind of a world is that?

2) Our technology, one might argue that why live now, why not wait a little longer and live during a more technologically advanced time? Maybe the age of the nano? My only counter to that is, well I don’t know... we are in the present, if you keep waiting longer and longer you might never live. Despite our differences in age, we will all see (I hope) the near future as well, not much of an answer but at least I tried.

2.1) The internet, never before has the human race been globally connected like it is now, 1000 years ago, no one could have ever fathomed that something like the internet would one day exist, (a global knowledge source of infinite proportions, the near culmination of everything and everything, all accessible at the touch of a key or a click of the mouse)

Maybe I chose to be a human (the smartest creature on earth, I think) maybe I chose to be alive now, maybe my purpose in life is to absorb as much human knowledge and experiences as physically possible. If I had existed before July 24, 1984 then I was not in human form, maybe I existed as something else in another place, if so, that would mean that I should have the memories of this prior existence, right? But would I want to remember? HELL NO! it would be the end all spoiler of my current existence and it would suck the fun out of living and it would severely conflict with current human understanding, pretty much turning the world upside-down (if I started walking around saying that I was Blog-a-bag from the galaxy Blagen, or I was some dead guy from the past) Perhaps when we die we regain the memories of our prior existences, a cosmic collage of knowledge and experiences, all I know is that when I die, and if/when my consciousness lives on to the next plain. I will have a lot of pondering and contemplation to do... So I guess my question is, well, what do you think of this "theory" I pulled out of my 4th point of contact?
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Landwand Spacorn
Posted on Jul 8 2005, 03:22 AM


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everything happens for a reason right?
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DB
Posted on Jul 11 2005, 04:27 AM


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I guess it depends on what part of you has to exist for this poll, hehe.. if you say the atoms that make up you're body and mind, sure, we all existed before that, we dont even use the same molecules we were born with anyways, they're constantly replaced, thats why we eat, hehe... rebuilding cell walls, etc.... out matter probably gets replaced 10000's of times before we die... so i guess i was part of a tree, or rock perhaps, maybe a carrot or potatoe...... hehe.
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DB
Posted on Jul 11 2005, 04:30 AM


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Since when you do die, there's no re-encarnation, and you're memories dont get passed on, thats why we must LEARN, then write it down on somthing that lasts longer than we do, or teach it to our kids, wich build upon that and spread the knowledge smile.gif
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Posted on Jul 11 2005, 06:44 AM


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If I ever knew the answere then you'd never read this post
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Posted on Jul 11 2005, 12:13 PM


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Ever wonder why we are alive now instead of 100 years ago or a 1,000, out of all the eras of human existence I find this to be the most satisfying for many reasons.

1) people today are more enlightened than ever, (one exception maybe ancient Greece or Atlantis if it ever existed) 50 years ago we had separate water fountains and schools, go back 200+ years and there was man enslaving his fellow man +2000 years and people would bleed themselves to release their evil demons what kind of a world is that?

2) Our technology, one might argue that why live now, why not wait a little longer and live during a more technologically advanced time? Maybe the age of the nano? My only counter to that is, well I don’t know... we are in the present, if you keep waiting longer and longer you might never live. Despite our differences in age, we will all see (I hope) the near future as well, not much of an answer but at least I tried.

2.1) The internet, never before has the human race been globally connected like it is now, 1000 years ago, no one could have ever fathomed that something like the internet would one day exist, (a global knowledge source of infinite proportions, the near culmination of everything and everything, all accessible at the touch of a key or a click of the mouse)

Maybe I chose to be a human (the smartest creature on earth, I think) maybe I chose to be alive now, maybe my purpose in life is to absorb as much human knowledge and experiences as physically possible. If I had existed before July 24, 1984 then I was not in human form, maybe I existed as something else in another place, if so, that would mean that I should have the memories of this prior existence, right? But would I want to remember? HELL NO! it would be the end all spoiler of my current existence and it would suck the fun out of living and it would severely conflict with current human understanding, pretty much turning the world upside-down (if I started walking around saying that I was Blog-a-bag from the galaxy Blagen, or I was some dead guy from the past) Perhaps when we die we regain the memories of our prior existences, a cosmic collage of knowledge and experiences, all I know is that when I die, and if/when my consciousness lives on to the next plain. I will have a lot of pondering and contemplation to do... So I guess my question is, well, what do you think of this "theory" I pulled out of my 4th point of contact?

I am going to say what I voted: YOU NEED metical attention.


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a_ht
Posted on Aug 4 2005, 05:12 PM


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Since we cant remember our prior lifes (if we have them), they have no influence on our present condition therefore qualify as uninteresting.
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Bodhidharma
Posted on Aug 8 2005, 08:31 AM


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QUOTE (DB @ Jul 11 2005, 04:27 AM)
I guess it depends on what part of you has to exist for this poll, hehe.. if you say the atoms that make up you're body and mind, sure, we all existed before that, we dont even use the same molecules we were born with anyways, they're constantly replaced, thats why we eat, hehe...  rebuilding cell walls, etc....  out matter probably gets replaced 10000's of times before we die... so i guess i was part of a tree, or rock perhaps, maybe a carrot or potatoe...... hehe.

If M-theory is correct, wouldn't that mean that my molecules could be part of a rock or a dog or any other piece of matter in a parallel universe? If we really are just one giant membrane floating around in hyper space along with countless other universes... then I don't really see how reincarnation can be so far fetched, after all those alternate dimensions could be the biblical heaven(s) or hell(s) that everyone's all worked up about, maybe we're here to learn or experience something before moving on to another level of existence.

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Bodhidharma
Posted on Aug 8 2005, 08:40 AM


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QUOTE (DB @ Jul 11 2005, 04:30 AM)
Since when you do die, there's no re-encarnation, and you're memories dont get passed on,

How can a murderer evolve into a good person with the memories of his victims still fresh in his/her mind? What you're talking about is genetic memory, if a species possessed that ability it would be able genetically imbed its memories into its offspring like the way we pass our traits to our offspring, as far as I'm aware, no species has that ability.
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a_ht
Posted on Aug 8 2005, 03:49 PM


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The earth population was so low more than 2 century ago... 500 million? 5 century ago, 50 million? If reincarnation is true, where are all the new souls comming from? Since human population can grow indefinetly, there must exist in infinite number of souls in a "celestial pool" waiting to incarnate in a human body (to meet current and future demand)... And, if there exists an infinite amount, that means "quite" a lot will never be incarnated... so, what warrants this unfair treatment to those souls which are stucked in the pool?
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Posted on Aug 8 2005, 04:25 PM


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Ever wonder why we are alive now instead of 100 years ago or a 1,000, out of all the eras of human existence


Yes, I used to ponder over it in my younger days - quite a lot actually.

My conclusion was as follows; Mom and Dad a while back decided to have a good time. They combine their DNA and a mass start to grow. Following genetic programming, I was formed.

Consider; what would have happened had my mom married someone else? Would I still exist?. No someone else would exist.

Add to this, the following though; suppose before Mom and Dad started to have fun, they decided to do the dishes first. Would I exist? Probably not, timing could be everything. Perhaps I was the strong sperm, but after an hour of waiting, I might not have been. Someone else could exist rather than me.

The definition of YOU, I see as the outcome of pregnancy with cause YOU to exist. Anything else would be someone else, not you. Any other outcome of pregnancy would have caused someone else to exist.

If you beleive there are souls and all that stuff (though being a creationist, I don't follow this teaching) then you have problems as a_ht highlights. God would have to create a soul and put it in you at the point of conception.... hmmmm what a load of garb. Anyways.

To some up your question, I would say no. We have one life, brough on by the actions of previous living humans, healthy sperm, healthy sexual desire and a bit of luck.
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Posted on Aug 8 2005, 06:04 PM


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well, i have a question for you. It is acceptable that evry human being has ancestors. But can you tell me who were the first human being on earth and who created them?
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Posted on Aug 8 2005, 06:26 PM


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Is that a trick question?
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Posted on Aug 8 2005, 06:33 PM


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QUOTE (anonymous @ Aug 8 2005, 06:04 PM)
well, i have a question for you. It is acceptable that evry human being has ancestors. But can you tell me who were the first human being on earth and who created them?

I am?
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hrishi
  Posted on Aug 8 2005, 06:44 PM


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Hi !!
Maybe you would like to read about SOUL , reincarnation in this question ans discussion :
Reincarnation Discussion

which will solve most of your Questions.

You said that "people today are more enlightened than ever" , but u may like to know that 1000's of year before and before that civilizations did exist which were far far superior to current one , People had the power of MIND , which is the fastest , even faster than light.People used to travel from planet to planet at that time .
The atom was discovered few 100 - 500 years , but it was already know to the ancient civiliztions , they use to call it "Annu" (atom) .
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