Portable Fuel Cell Hits The Market

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Viable or still SNL Tech?

GeneSplicer this is not a fuel cell by any sense of the idea. It is easier and cheaper to buy a lead acid battery and keep changing the acid.
The replacement fuel cost for this system is $20.00 and it must be recycled. I think it to be a scam.

Okay, I’ll bite. How is this not a fuel cell “by any sense of the idea”?

I think you also miss the proposed function of this fuel cell. This creates power on the fly while carrying around a redundant battery will result in a heavy and less that effective backup considering that such a battery will lose power while not in use.

Perhaps I need to be a bit more specific. Does anyone see this level of fuel cell tech viable or doe it need more development?

Considering what it can do for mobile users, I think it has potential, but such a fuel cell would not be a welcomed item by the TSA I believe.

This also does not even take into consideration what the hacker and modder comminutes might be able to do with this item like DIY refills.

They should build high powered fuel cells based on di-borane-tri-nitro-tri-octane-tri nitro gliceride, and hope it doenst blow up lol (lies)

Add some tri nitro hydrazine, Thats to give it strength

This post has been edited by eyeque on Oct 12 2008, 05:25 AM

Di borane etc what???

Di borane was a rocket fuel 45 years ago

Hydrazin has more bang for your bucks than any rocket fuel HN3

Compare with Amonia NH3

Yes I have designed my fuel cell ingredients like rocket fuel or propelant to drive a .369 bullet at 1 knot per second with a 9 in two rifling twist (My Soultech post)

This post has been edited by eyeque on Oct 12 2008, 06:12 AM

Nine in two twist? do you want to cum out lol

The major cost in fuel cells will be the refueling infrastructure. You can get hydrogen from methane (natural gas to Americans), and the distribution "pipes in the ground" are already there. But you need the refueling stations as well. For that reason fuel cells for transportation is not going to economically complete any time soon, meaning it's not going to be built very quickly. Splitting hydrogen/O2 and using the H for fuel costs A LOT of raw energy. In time, with more economical, and renewable electric energy production this will happen, and the economy will be there, but not today or the near future by any stretch.

The biggest cost in fuel cells today are the need for platinum. While true catalytic converters use platinum, its considerably less. At the moment the best hope lies in alternative fuel cell materials and production methods. Polymer fuel cells may be the hope here. Yes, I think fuel cells are being incorporated, or will be in certain high end computer products, but I don't know how they can reasonably be refueled. Any one out there who knows, don't keep it a secret.

But for the time being, combinations of more electrical/other power plant hybrids make more sense for most vehicles. I can see a sooner use of fuel cells in things like buses, vehicle fleets, etc because they can rely on a central refueling source that could use natural gas for both, the starting fluid and the power to convert it. With places like the Federal Express headquarters having its vast building covered with photo-voltaic cells, this offers a way to (now the place has such cells on the roof), used to produce hydrogen. From water (power intensive) or natural gas (much cheaper). Fleets of such vehicles can also help us work out the kinks that must show up when large numbers of vehicles are using them.

Another thing you have no knolege about from 35 years ago was that platinum, or was that palladium, (At fifty my 12 old memory is faulting) but the text read that the metal absorbs larg amounts of hydrogen. Metal is metal and can be built into a humungus fuel cell. Soak all the liquid hydrogen into the paladium and build a fast acting fuel cell.

Im still riding on intelect of a 12 year old from 1973, however/but it has been modified

Don't even dare question my 10 year olds knoledge of particle accellerators/particle physics - youl be like a silly goat headbutting a tree

Platinum is good to electroplate engine cylinder because it absobs lubricant oil into its electroplated surface.

Palladium is what absorbs liquid hydrogen qmongst its atoms and can be used to build a fast fuel cell(at 50 my memory is slugish, but there is a lifetime of leathal information in my brain)

I am aware of the use of hydrazine as a thruster fuel, as opposed to "pure" rocket fuel. I have no idea what di borane is, can you give me the chemical formula? 45 years ago we were using liquid o2 and alcohol, and H/o2. Not to mention very effective solid propellants, after not so great ones like gun powder... Also the Germans in WW-2 used T-stoff and S-toff, like hydrazine ultra corrosive, with the former all you had to do is combine them and let the hypergolic reaction do its thing. A .369 @ 1 knot per second is a pretty low energy reaction, and just what do you mean by "a 9 with two rifling twist"? What you have said does not to make much sense to me but then areospace for me (with the exception of stealth coatings) is just a passionate hobby. The actual membrane exchange that is the power mechanisim in fuel cells has very little kinetic energy potential. Just as the specific impulse, or thrust, of an ion rocket is so much less then chemical, let alone nuclear thermal as in NERVA ones. High velocity yes but sadly little "umph"

I should point out for whatever its worth I'm a long term member of the AIAA, American Institue of Avionics and Astronautics, the British Interplanetary Society and in the mid-1980's on the research and advisory panel of Aviation Week and Space Technology Magazine. Also a pilot. I like to certainly be kept up to date on whats going on, and dont like to think Ive missed something as basic as rocket or fuel cell chemistry. Thats why I ask a lot of questions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borane

Di-borane was used as a rocket fuel

Thanks for info. but I would like to tell about nokia n96
which is like a magic creation in this era. n96 wins hands down with 16 GB memory which is enough for an user.