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| xtrmn8r |
Posted: Jun 4 2008, 12:47 AM
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Are YOU inherently prejudiced?
-------------------- "The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt."
Bertrand Russell "The more we realise our minuteness and our impotence in the face of cosmic forces, the more amazing becomes what human beings have achieved." Bertrand Russell "You can observe a lot by just watching." - Yogi Berra |
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| Gorgeous |
Posted: Jun 4 2008, 06:46 PM
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Virtually all people are. We also call it 'culture', and some are even proud of the fact! g. -------------------- "Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts."
(Richard Feynman, The Pleasure of Finding Things Out (1999) In order to fool others, we must firstly be able to fool ourselves: Who ya gonna fool? © If I sit atop a hill looking down into the valley below, I see waves, I feel waves, I smell and hear waves. The crops in the fields below sway in waves just like the water of the ocean does, and sound waves come and go. From this simple and empirical premise alone, the Wave-Structure of Matter is just leaps and bounds ahead in terms of plausible description for that which we observe. It thus comes as no surprise whatsoever, for those whose minds are fixed on Reality, to learn that the REAL 'equations' will also match up...If your 'math' or your 'physics' does not plausibly explain that which we observe empirically, it has not yet reached the same level of understanding that WSM presents: http://www.spaceandmotion.com/ |
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| midwestern |
Posted: Jun 4 2008, 08:05 PM
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Absolutely not. Prejudice is learned through acorn heads teaching baked ones how to hate.
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| am_Unition |
Posted: Jun 4 2008, 08:17 PM
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Another excellent discussion.
It seems like it's primal human nature to discriminate, to separate "us" from "them". In fact, this is now the sociological definition of what race is. It is much better explained as a perception instead of some actual biological distinction. Survivalist, selfish human nature naturally makes one elevate whatever race or group a person and their perceived equals belong to. Years ago it was for tribal control of hunting/gathering territory, and today it's for jobs and other resources. The "I'm/We're better than you/them" mentality greatly aids the mind in justifying violence and other atrocities. It's funny, because the definition of "us" and "them" varies circumstantially. For instance, the European immigrants to America in the 19th century (Irish, Italian, German, Catholics, anything not purely protestant and Anglo-Saxon) faced great discrimination. But, by the early to mid 20th century, they had gained equal footing as other "whites" that had more pure Anglo-Saxon roots. Why? Because the original Anglo-Saxons gradually faced more of a labor threat from emancipated African Americans, Hispanics, Mexicans, Asians, and many other immigrants willing to work for less money than "whites". Hence, institutionalized discrimination was employed to exclude them from the job market. Social programming is a STRONG force, and especially when huge numbers of people share a common belief, it tends to reinforce and uphold whatever is accepted by the masses. Realize that we have mediums of transmitting information that all support each other, relay many of the same ideas, and have grown especially powerful within the last couple of decades, with many mediums even cross-promoting each other. People underestimate how impressionable they are. Consider advertising - one of, if not the most effective tactics is to simply impress a person with a feeling of humor or happiness that they then associate with the product being sold, which is later accessed by the brain when they see the product on a store shelf, in a vending machine, etc. etc. This tactic has been exploited to its fullest potential on a variety of currently widely held public opinions. I'm not even going to start listing them, as I may never finish. The overly acceptive alpha-brainwave state experienced shortly after tuning into to television programming (an incredibly appropriate expression) further helps impress the subconscious. Think of how many times our socially promoted ways of thinking and generalizing a person based upon their race, gender, age, sexuality, or phenotype, passing our judgment, and taking a resultant action have been a direct result of being exposed to TV material that formed our preconceived notions of how they would function. The entire thing serves as somewhat of a cycle, with people even sometimes choosing to conform to the roles that our society has siphoned them into. I think it is our responsibility to get over these silly notions of inequality and stereotyping; to kill the ego and place ourselves in the shoes of every other human being on this Earth, and realize that we're all the same thing, each with the same potential. I say these things, but I struggle with them on a daily basis. Anyway, I'm gearing up for WPI - World Peace I. |
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Posted: Jun 4 2008, 08:22 PM
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Nice read and ditto Am_Un. Well done.
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| Gorgeous |
Posted: Jun 4 2008, 08:36 PM
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Not from where I sit! 'World peace' would be a bit of a novelty. People 'struggle' because they mostly like to repeat what they already know. Change is always a new thing, and people often fear the unknown. g. -------------------- "Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts."
(Richard Feynman, The Pleasure of Finding Things Out (1999) In order to fool others, we must firstly be able to fool ourselves: Who ya gonna fool? © If I sit atop a hill looking down into the valley below, I see waves, I feel waves, I smell and hear waves. The crops in the fields below sway in waves just like the water of the ocean does, and sound waves come and go. From this simple and empirical premise alone, the Wave-Structure of Matter is just leaps and bounds ahead in terms of plausible description for that which we observe. It thus comes as no surprise whatsoever, for those whose minds are fixed on Reality, to learn that the REAL 'equations' will also match up...If your 'math' or your 'physics' does not plausibly explain that which we observe empirically, it has not yet reached the same level of understanding that WSM presents: http://www.spaceandmotion.com/ |
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| midwestern |
Posted: Jun 4 2008, 08:40 PM
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I believe he means he struggles with those not seeing the light.
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| am_Unition |
Posted: Jun 4 2008, 08:42 PM
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Negatory... I struggle with putting into practice what I have learned. Unfortunately, this usually means erasing many of the things I learned/acquired as a child. I'm lucky in that I've still got a good chunk of life to live... hopefully, hehe |
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| midwestern |
Posted: Jun 4 2008, 08:47 PM
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Ahhh. Well, good luck with dealing with some negative features of your life. Sorry, I'm not entirely dittoed to your earlier post.
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| Gorgeous |
Posted: Jun 4 2008, 10:54 PM
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I'd say you're doing well just to recognise the fact, as this is half the 'battle'. We do like to feel comfortable, and a good solid base of what we think is 'knowledge' compounds the 'comfy' feeling. When this is challenged...we see 'challenge'!! This is one of the main reasons why schools have such hard times with kids nowadays. The kids perceive a 'forceful' teacher that they 'react' to, instead of learn from. This is especially bad in the UK, where the main agenda for all teachers is to ensure that 'uniform' is correctly worn, before any real 'teaching' takes place. This puts the back of the kids up before they even start! g. -------------------- "Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts."
(Richard Feynman, The Pleasure of Finding Things Out (1999) In order to fool others, we must firstly be able to fool ourselves: Who ya gonna fool? © If I sit atop a hill looking down into the valley below, I see waves, I feel waves, I smell and hear waves. The crops in the fields below sway in waves just like the water of the ocean does, and sound waves come and go. From this simple and empirical premise alone, the Wave-Structure of Matter is just leaps and bounds ahead in terms of plausible description for that which we observe. It thus comes as no surprise whatsoever, for those whose minds are fixed on Reality, to learn that the REAL 'equations' will also match up...If your 'math' or your 'physics' does not plausibly explain that which we observe empirically, it has not yet reached the same level of understanding that WSM presents: http://www.spaceandmotion.com/ |
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| midwestern |
Posted: Jun 6 2008, 06:20 PM
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Gorgeous, I didn't realize the U.K. had a problem between teachers and students. Can you brief us on this somewhat besides the uniform problems?
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| "THEY" |
Posted: Jun 6 2008, 07:51 PM
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Ahhhhhh, Gorgeous! Quit fearing the unknown and come join Sapo's joint! -------------------- HEY! I HIT 1000 AND DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE! NEW PROUD MEMBER OF THE "NOW I CAN MAKE MY OWN TITLE" GROUP.
I never thought I would see wisdom in graffiti on a train. But this morning I passed a train that had the graffiti "LEARN TRUTH". I found it very profound, yet ironic... "None are so empty as those who are full of themselves." - Andrew Jackson "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink." - Ancient Proverb Also could be said as, "You can lead a human to knowledge, but you can't make him think." - THEY |
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Aw, come on, Gorgeous! We need more good looking females at Sapo's!
Pleeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaase? -------------------- HEY! I HIT 1000 AND DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE! NEW PROUD MEMBER OF THE "NOW I CAN MAKE MY OWN TITLE" GROUP.
I never thought I would see wisdom in graffiti on a train. But this morning I passed a train that had the graffiti "LEARN TRUTH". I found it very profound, yet ironic... "None are so empty as those who are full of themselves." - Andrew Jackson "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink." - Ancient Proverb Also could be said as, "You can lead a human to knowledge, but you can't make him think." - THEY |
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| Gorgeous |
Posted: Jun 7 2008, 12:31 AM
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For you, sweetie...I might pop by shortly! g. -------------------- "Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts."
(Richard Feynman, The Pleasure of Finding Things Out (1999) In order to fool others, we must firstly be able to fool ourselves: Who ya gonna fool? © If I sit atop a hill looking down into the valley below, I see waves, I feel waves, I smell and hear waves. The crops in the fields below sway in waves just like the water of the ocean does, and sound waves come and go. From this simple and empirical premise alone, the Wave-Structure of Matter is just leaps and bounds ahead in terms of plausible description for that which we observe. It thus comes as no surprise whatsoever, for those whose minds are fixed on Reality, to learn that the REAL 'equations' will also match up...If your 'math' or your 'physics' does not plausibly explain that which we observe empirically, it has not yet reached the same level of understanding that WSM presents: http://www.spaceandmotion.com/ |
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| midwestern |
Posted: Jun 18 2008, 05:07 PM
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I'm waiting Gorgeous.
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