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| Gary Gaulin |
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I did write things like this before, but never had what looks like the entire mechanism in as few words as possible to describe the whole thing. And notice how without one saying "evolution" it still explains it, but from the perspective of intelligence/consciousness.
I think this is the real thing. The "Design Theory". To be taught along side evolution. I want to go for publishing in the journal Nature, since from what I know is the ultimate. Seriously think they would love it. Not be the first time I published this kind of thing before, but the real "Design Theory" is like WOW! All comments welcome. -------------------- Theory Of Intelligent Design
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| gmilam |
Posted: Apr 10 2008, 02:08 AM
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This is the only part I have any real problems with...
Granted, I am not a scientist. I am but a lowly programmer/musician with an insatiable curiosity. But I, personally, do not see any evidence of anything consciously directing it's own "change"... at least not on the inheritable/genetic level. -------------------- "I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused." - Elvis Costello
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| Gary Gaulin |
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Evidence is in peacock tails. And in how choosy we are in mate selection. It's not random like we pick just anyone at random at a party or something to "pick up".
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/20...09_peacock.html The theory predicts that male peacocks will get more spots/length while humans will go towards big-eye and long legs, whatever is enhanced to make artificially sexy since that is what the current ultimate goal is. There only has to be that possible in the variety present in the population. Or in other words the DNA will go in that direction, which in our case and peacocks, it can. -------------------- Theory Of Intelligent Design
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| gmilam |
Posted: Apr 10 2008, 02:36 AM
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Ah! But in that case, it's not the male choosing how he wants to look... it's the female selecting what she likes. -------------------- "I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused." - Elvis Costello
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| N O M |
Posted: Apr 10 2008, 02:38 AM
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Gaulin, your stupid theory is not original. It is no different to the theory that Lamark published over a century ago. Darwin proved him wrong then.
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| Gary Gaulin |
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According to this from Berkeley:
http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/history/lamarck.html You are at most saying is I am the forerunner of "Design Theory", the poor and obscurity part is right. A read through of it has me wondering how you can say it's the same. Even Darwin recognized a conscious driven component. It has elements of Lamarck as does Darwin's work, but inludes how "design" fits in to what we now know. I could maybe include how the environment directs change but that's so common knowledge now, I thought it would be redundant to include. Want to make it as easy to fit into into one class period as possible. Two paragraphs, no problem! This post has been edited by Gary Gaulin on Apr 10 2008, 04:01 AM -------------------- Theory Of Intelligent Design
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| gmilam |
Posted: Apr 10 2008, 03:10 AM
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Not exactly Lamarkism as I understand it... But it does show something we all know, but hate to admit... the females are really in control. Males will mate with anything, it's the female that decides who gets to spread their DNA around. -------------------- "I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused." - Elvis Costello
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| Zarkov |
Posted: Apr 10 2008, 03:26 AM
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Telos -------------------- http://www.omegafour.com/forum2/
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| Gary Gaulin |
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Telos!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telos_(philosophy) Have to remember that one! And an occasional male in the usually self-fertalizing C. Elegans that will successfully mate, suggests females do rule, like they didn't even need the males but was more fun I guess. And here's more for anyone into how the worm works. Last time I checked they were close to figuring out the entire brain circuit. http://www.wormatlas.org/ This post has been edited by Gary Gaulin on Apr 10 2008, 03:56 AM -------------------- Theory Of Intelligent Design
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Posted: Apr 10 2008, 03:56 AM
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Males are " deliberate mutations", they are "environment" directed but generally not required. females are generally innate ROM directed and do not need 'knowledge' (as males envision that word to mean) When the super-organism LIFE reaches the flowering stage, environment directed input is necessary to enact mechanisms for seed dispersal. Then all fall down and rot! Telos -------------------- http://www.omegafour.com/forum2/
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| barakn |
Posted: Apr 10 2008, 04:43 AM
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So you're saying that females operate on instinct, not intelligence? I have the feeling some people might disagree with that. -------------------- bark'n mad
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| Ron |
Posted: Apr 10 2008, 04:43 PM
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Gary,
Maybe I'm reading you wrong, but you sound more like an evolution proponent. A male peacock will pick the female most suitable to good procreation, not much different from a chameleon changing colors to avoid predators and grasshoppers eating poisonous food and showing bright colors to tell the predator "remember the last bright red and yellow grasshopper you ate, you had the runs for a week, think twice pally" Correct me if I've misunderstood you. Peace, Ron |
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| paul h |
Posted: Apr 10 2008, 05:01 PM
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We may well have gotten to the point were our evolution could be driven more by social concerns than environmental. (in the 1st world)
So how long before we evolve past stupid and ugly? -------------------- left for greener pastures
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| Gary Gaulin |
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Hi Ron, everyone!
Check this out. I put everything on a blog! Very educational challenge now. http://scientific-design-theory.blogspot.com/ -------------------- Theory Of Intelligent Design
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| Gorgeous |
Posted: Apr 17 2008, 10:05 AM
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A sample from the last link...
Thanks for the 'challenge'! Oh, and this is just plain dangerous...
g. This post has been edited by Gorgeous on Apr 17 2008, 10:12 AM -------------------- "Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts."
(Richard Feynman, The Pleasure of Finding Things Out (1999) In order to fool others, we must firstly be able to fool ourselves: Who ya gonna fool? © If I sit atop a hill looking down into the valley below, I see waves, I feel waves, I smell and hear waves. The crops in the fields below sway in waves just like the water of the ocean does, and sound waves come and go. From this simple and empirical premise alone, the Wave-Structure of Matter is just leaps and bounds ahead in terms of plausible description for that which we observe. It thus comes as no surprise whatsoever, for those whose minds are fixed on Reality, to learn that the REAL 'equations' will also match up...If your 'math' or your 'physics' does not plausibly explain that which we observe empirically, it has not yet reached the same level of understanding that WSM presents: http://www.spaceandmotion.com/ |
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