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| KOTJE |
Posted: Jun 8 2005, 06:34 PM
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A philosopher (I have forgotten the name) once said: " When one reason there can't be anythink (the first cause ...), but when we look around us there are all these thinks".
That's a sort of paradox. What do you think of that. Please no God, with God we can explain everythink. |
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| JavaTool |
Posted: Jun 8 2005, 06:38 PM
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I'm not sure if I understand here. Do you mean, "With one reason there can't be anything, but when we look around there all all these things." Or do you mean "thinks" as in thinking? |
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| KOTJE |
Posted: Jun 8 2005, 08:38 PM
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Dear Javatool I mean when I think about it, when I made up my mind about it.
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| JavaTool |
Posted: Jun 8 2005, 09:53 PM
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"When I think about something, I've already made up my mind about it?" Yes?
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| KOTJE |
Posted: Jun 9 2005, 04:48 AM
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Javatool just think of the origin of everythink you see, than one moment you will see there can't be anythink. I'is not so easy.
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Posted: Jun 9 2005, 12:18 PM
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| Pat |
Posted: Jun 9 2005, 12:49 PM
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Hi guys....you may like this....I found it in a book.... "restraining the imagination, not permitting it to dwell overmuch".........."if we either tire ourselves or puzzle ourselves, it is our own fault."
There is lots more, wrote by some of the very wise men from the beginning of time till now. |
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| JavaTool |
Posted: Jun 21 2005, 03:21 AM
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Oh, I think I finally understand what you were saying! Is it basically the chicken and the egg problem? Philosophy has a problem trying to explain origins e.g. the origin of language. Wittgenstein said something like "language can't be explained by language" but I don't really agree. I personally think the problem is simply that we're using deduction to explain a phenomena that likely had multiple causes - the right one(s) could only be proven by empirical evidence. Likewise for other things, like the beginning of the universe. |
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