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ottac
Posted: Feb 5 2008, 10:44 PM


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How does one synthesize/manufacture glyceraldehyde (C3H6O3)?
What equipment and materials would be needed?
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Sapo
Posted: Feb 5 2008, 11:02 PM


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Why would you ask here, instead of going to a Wiki page, or your chemistry teacher? Which isomer?

Edit: I should have said enantiomer, I guess. I got that from Wiki, what's the problem?

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ottac
Posted: Feb 5 2008, 11:10 PM


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Read the wikipedia page on glyceraldehyde, and everything else I could find via google.

Google search actually produced one result with related info which was from a forum on this site, so I thought I'd ask the forum.

High school/undergrad was quite a while back, so I'm not really in touch with any of my old chemistry instructors, so that's not really an option.

Afraid I didn't do a technical/science degree myself.

In any event, interested in manufacturing process/requirements for both, right and left.

Thanks again.
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Sapo
Posted: Feb 5 2008, 11:31 PM


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Sorry. My college chemistry was much more than a while back. I'll send you my textbooks, though. tongue.gif

Maybe Trippy can help? What'cha gonna do with it? smile.gif

Edit: Sorry again. I see that calebthechemist is here, too. Perhaps you now have two sources?

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ottac
Posted: Feb 5 2008, 11:56 PM


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Oh, I'm not going to do anything with it.

I'm looking at a domain name, glyceraldehyde.com, and my initial research justified a closer look.

Apparently the stuff is only made by a few chemical manufacturers in the US, but it prices at approx $1,000 for 25 grams, and has a reasonable 'footprint' on the internet (google shows 700,000+ results for glyceraldehyde search).

So, next I wanted to get a good idea for how the stuff is made. If it's a patented process, time to look at another domain name.

Also interested in who buys it and what it's used for (haven't quite nailed that one down yet either), but that's less important.

There's a price for it, which means there's a market. And if there's a market, and a reasonable footprint on the net, then the domain has value.

And if the process is relatively simple and I can rent out a lab back home in research park, well even better.

But for now I just want to know how it's made and the equipment and materials required.
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barakn
Posted: Feb 5 2008, 11:59 PM


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So you're a cybersquatter. Why should we help you?


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Sapo
Posted: Feb 6 2008, 12:11 AM


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Because he wants to make polymer explosives. Why else?
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ottac
Posted: Feb 6 2008, 01:11 AM


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Wow, animosity. That's fun. Such a friendly little world we live in.

Cybersquatting is illegal, and I imagine polymer explosives are as well. Not interested in either.

Glyceraldehyde.com isn't even potential cybersquatting, to suggest otherwise is a) insulting and cool.gif ignorant. It's a potential purchase and development candidate for a legitimate buyer. As far as I can tell the process for making the stuff isn't patented either, or subject to any other IP, so cybersquatting isn't even on the right continent.

As for polymer explosives... What? Wikipedia indicates that glyceraldehyde is a type of carbohydrate that is an intermediate compound in carbohydrate metabolism. Not that I really understand what that means, but it sounds more like a dietary supplement than an explosive. It doesn't say anything about explosives. How on earth is any of this related to explosives?

Moving along. If anyone has any insight on how the stuff is made, and what sort of lab environment, equipment, and materials would be needed, feel free to respond to the actual question of the post.

All I really care about is whether it can be manufactured for less than $50/gram.
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paul h
Posted: Feb 6 2008, 01:12 AM


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QUOTE (Sapo @ Feb 5 2008, 08:11 PM)
Because he wants to make polymer explosives. Why else?

Well the I'm looking at a domain name, glyceraldehyde.com, and my initial research justified a closer look.

Didn't fly It's taken already . mad.gif

http://glyceraldehyde.com/

Wanta try again.

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ottac
Posted: Feb 6 2008, 01:18 AM


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Yeah it's taken. I own it.
Trying to figure out what to do with it.
Like I said, initial research justified a closer look. Now I'm looking closer, trying to figure out whether I should pursue a development route, or just stick with parking, or go for a full blown business plan.
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Sapo
Posted: Feb 6 2008, 01:19 AM


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QUOTE (ottac @ Feb 5 2008, 08:11 PM)
Wow, animosity. That's fun. Such a friendly little world we live in.

Cybersquatting is illegal, and I imagine polymer explosives are as well. Not interested in either.

Glyceraldehyde.com isn't even potential cybersquatting, to suggest otherwise is a) insulting and cool.gif ignorant. It's a potential purchase and development candidate for a legitimate buyer. As far as I can tell the process for making the stuff isn't patented either, or subject to any other IP, so cybersquatting isn't even on the right continent.

As for polymer explosives... What? Wikipedia indicates that glyceraldehyde is a type of carbohydrate that is an intermediate compound in carbohydrate metabolism. Not that I really understand what that means, but it sounds more like a dietary supplement than an explosive. It doesn't say anything about explosives. How on earth is any of this related to explosives?

Moving along. If anyone has any insight on how the stuff is made, and what sort of lab environment, equipment, and materials would be needed, feel free to respond to the actual question of the post.

All I really care about is whether it can be manufactured for less than $50/gram.

It wasn't animosity, I do beg your pardon. I couldn't decide which little 'motie' to use. Carbohydrates are a component of quite a few easily made explosives, and your original post was sort of vague, I thought.

No insult intended. wink.gif
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paul h
Posted: Feb 6 2008, 01:21 AM


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Yeah it's taken. I own it.
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Posted: Feb 6 2008, 01:40 AM


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paul h, I can prove it.
I registered it through 1and1 (private reg), and it's parked at Fabulous for now.
If you insist on challenging my integrity, I can send you a copy of my invoice from the registrar, or screenshot of the domain in my account.

Sapo,
Thanks for your clarification, I guess I read your post in the wrong context due to barakn's post.

Now, any comments on the manufacturing process?

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Posted: Feb 6 2008, 01:49 AM


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ottac
>paul h, I can prove it.
I registered it through 1and1 (private reg), and it's parked at Fabulous for now.
If you insist on challenging my integrity, I can send you a copy of my invoice from the registrar, or screenshot of the domain in my account.

Why?
Cyber Squatting went out in the 90s and anyone that buys a domain name for a company that they don't know anything about sounds fishy.

If you had enough money to pursue manuf. I don't think you'd be here.
Didn't pass the sniff test.


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ottac
Posted: Feb 6 2008, 02:06 AM


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paul,

Why what? Don't understand your question.

What do you mean a company I know nothing about. Who said anything about a company? Why would I buy domains for a company I know nothing about? Better yet, why would I buy domains for a company? Nothing in this entire thread mentions a company.

When I regged the domain I knew enough to know that it was worth more than six bucks (due to the price of the product and the footprint on the net), which is all I needed to know to make the decision to register it.

Now I need to know a little more, so I can decide what I should do with it.

I've started and run small ventures before, if glyceraldehyde costs substantially less to mfr than the going price, then the financing won't be too hard to find. If it is a complicated, capital intensive process, then I'll leave the domain parked, earn my six bucks back in clicks (plus a little, I'm sure), and move on.

The only reason I'm here is, as I was attempting to educate myself on the substance, I ran across a post from an old discussion on this forum that discussed the creation of glyceraldehyde-3-phosphate (not entirely sure how this compound is different, although I expect it is) via NADPH and ATP (just quoting here, no idea what this really means), and I thought some folks on this forum might be able to give me a little more insight. The post I refer to is forum.physorg.com/index.php?showtopic=15738.

Your sniffer is out of whack.
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