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Zeta Function, pls can somone explain the zeta function| arealperson |
Posted: Jan 1 2008, 08:55 PM
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need an explanation of the function they call zeta, in words, not symbols,
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| IAMoraes |
Posted: Jan 1 2008, 09:14 PM
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| Guest00 |
Posted: Jan 1 2008, 09:56 PM
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I believe John Derbyshire does an adequate job explaining the Riemann Zeta function in his book Prime Obsession (I do not approve of or condone the purchase of this book, though I personally have bought and read this book).
-edit- Note: It is not my intent to sell or promote/prevent the sale of this book. This post has been edited by Guest00 on Jan 1 2008, 09:57 PM |
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| Guest_IAMoraes |
Posted: Jan 2 2008, 01:31 AM
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Since there is a paperback, I will try to get it tomorrow at B&N then! Ok, so it's not BASIC code, but I'll see what it is before I burn it. Then, later, I will need your name so I can give you credit for helping me when I crush Reimann's hypothesis... if you want it, that is! Would you prefer credit or a bag of potato chips?  (I have read about the zeta function but have never seen any understandable explanation for what it is supposed to be either. I suspect it has become mathemystics...) Thanks, Guest00. Ivan |
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| Sapo |
Posted: Jan 2 2008, 02:22 AM
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Sometimes, I get a true glimpse of the beauties around us! Mostly I beat my forehead on something harder, but today AlphaNumeric's response in the thread on factorials, and now this. I am harming my po' old brain now with Ramanujan's Sum, via Wikipedia.
If I survive, again... |
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| arealperson |
Posted: Jan 2 2008, 08:56 PM
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thanks (i think) for replies..
the reason i ask was because i have been playing with numbers for a few years  and have come across a way of showing that there is a very definite pattern of odds and evens within prime numbers. is this something math-people know about? |
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| AlphaNumeric |
Posted: Jan 3 2008, 04:32 PM
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No, you haven't. Anyone who has to ask for a 'wordy' description of the Zeta function doesn't know enough maths to attack such a problem. -------------------- The views in the above post are those of its author and not those of the people who educated him through a degree and masters or those who currently supervise him during his PhD, have collaborated with him to write papers and pay him to teach and mark undergraduate mathematics and physics courses. Any insults, flames or rants are purely the work of the author and not the institutions of which he has or is or will be affiliated with.
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| arealperson |
Posted: Jan 3 2008, 05:44 PM
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alphanumeric, i beg to differ on both counts
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| Guest00 |
Posted: Jan 3 2008, 06:34 PM
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Arealperson, why don't you post your work? If it indeed is profound, only fools will laugh. I wanted to say that no one is going to steal your work, but I realized halfway through that thought that some might; however, most of the people that plagiarize are idiots anyway and thus (in theory) wouldn't know what to do with said work. I hope I haven't dissuaded you from posting your findings.
As for a wordy explanation of the Riemann zeta function, I simply do not think it's possible for me to provide a clear, sufficient, and accurate detail of said function without going into the maths associated with it. Again, I recommend you to read the book I mentioned in my post above. Your local library should have it. Once again, it is not my intent to sell or promote/prevent the sale of anything (i.e. book). |
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| Guest_IAMoraes |
Posted: Jan 3 2008, 08:09 PM
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Not the math!!!! The algorithm! In plain-vanilla BASIC. |
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| arealperson |
Posted: Jan 3 2008, 08:38 PM
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ok, i am no mathmatician or scientist.
as far as i'm concerned, u guys have got us into this global mess we're in, so why would i give u more rope to hang us with??? howevever, i would not rule out a genuine and sympathetic offer of practical assistance from a like-minded individual (who can do math), in order to determine whether or not this "work" is indeed anything "profound" - which, by the way, i have not claimed it to be.  |
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| BigDumbWeirdo |
Posted: Jan 3 2008, 08:48 PM
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Ummm...... Ok. I'm not a mathematician. I don't have any degrees in math. I sucked at math in high school, and the most advanced math I've ever studied was from The Complete Idiot's Guide to Algebra. (unless you count my rote memorization of certain phrases in the Orbifolds and Holonomy thread...) That being said, I know for a fact that there is no such thing as an even prime number. Not one. Because: If it's an even number, it's divisible by more than 1 and itself. Hence: it's not prime. Do I have to add a "Ya friggan mo'?" or is my point made? This post has been edited by BigDumbWeirdo on Jan 3 2008, 08:55 PM -------------------- Suck my dіck, PissOrg fυcking forums!
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Posted: Jan 3 2008, 10:04 PM
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Posted: Jan 3 2008, 10:38 PM
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| arealperson |
Posted: Jan 4 2008, 02:47 AM
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well thanks for taking an interest
i know there are no even primes = what i'm talking about is a function (which results in evens/odds when applied to primes) it also appears to do other interesting stuff, but like i say, i could do with a lilttle help to see just what it is (or is not) got no hidden agenda, other than to save ourselves from our own intelligence |
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