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Posted: Dec 23 2007, 05:40 AM
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Hi, May I have a request? I guess everyone knows about cathode tube. Can someone do few simple experiments for me?
In cathode tube, the bending of electrons incident beam is achieved by the electric deflector or electric field.
If the electrons incident beam is changed to light beam, will the light beam be deflected?
If this experiment shows that electrons incident beam possible but light beam not possible, can we first conclude that electrons do not travel as light?
Atoms consist of positive charges which similar to the deflector, therefore, when electrons incident beam passes through the slit, the beam will be deflected. The discrete deflection is due to discrete energy line in atomic level. More descriptions and explanations can be viewed in the link below.
Then, we can proceed to the second experiment on the same set up. When the electrons incident beam is bent by the deflector or the electric field, will it emit EM wave? Yes, it is.
Then if we exert a magnetic field perpendicular to the electric field to make the electrons incident beam deflect the opposite direction, where the electrons incident beam do not change the travel direction, there is zero acceleration act on the electrons, will the electrons incident beam produces EM wave? If it does not, can we conclude that when the magnetic and electric forces are balanced, electrons incident beam do not produce EM wave?
Third, if we make the electric deflector into a rod or ball instead of plate and the magnetic deflector is perpendicular to the electric deflector. Something like a mangetic field 'cake' with an electric 'candle' in the center. Will the electrons incident beam circulates around the 'candle' perpetually? provided that the apparatus is fully vacuum, no other external strong M&E field, no external perturbation and the velocity of the electrons matches the strength of the M&E field.
If these experiments produce positive results, We may conclude that the electrons circulate in an atom in this way, the particle-model way, not the wave-model way.
A new atom model is introduced base on this principle. More descriptions and explanation can be viewed in the website below. It is substantiates with the hydrogen atom model and the Moseley X-ray spectrum.
Interesting!! Thank you.
Posted: Dec 23 2007, 05:12 PM
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Photons have no electric charge, this should answer your question.
This is already known.
Posted: Dec 23 2007, 05:28 PM
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Milo Wolff has done some interesting work on the electron, recently...
Don't know if this will help or not, but just in case...
"In one drop of water are found all the secrets of all the oceans" - Khalil Gibran
I hold it true that pure thought can grasp reality, as the ancients dreamed. (Albert Einstein, 1954)
Observe the effect and the cause will become apparent.
Posted: Dec 25 2007, 09:50 PM
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Well, as Dallas pointed out, light, or rather, photons, do not have an electric charge. They therefore cannot be deflected by the deflector.
Nothing new there.
Now, this is where I'm adding something. Atoms are NEUTRAL, unless they are ions (They have lost or gained an electron). The nucleus, at the centre, is positive. The electrons orbiting the nucleus are negative. In the Rutherford experiment, the alpha particles are deflected by the positive nucleus.
The cathode tube uses a magnetic field to alter the path of the electrons. It is not because the atoms have a positive charge.
Well, the electrons will travel as waves whether you like it or not if they're not being measured.
My apologies if I've misunderstood your post!
Edit: Ermmmm.... Quotes don't seem to be working for me. Hmm.
This post has been edited by Gehn on Dec 25 2007, 10:09 PM
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