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So, why is it better 2 miles away from shore? I would have thought that the power of waves was stronger when they stand up when they hit shallow water.

Well, I think they want it to bob up and down, producing a relatively constant AC current through the wire coils, instead of going up pretty high and slamming back down, which would trigger a large but spontaneous current with large lulls in between. Besides, with bigger waves, there's more of a chance to have a mechanical malfunction (say, a big wave comes along and knocks the magnet loose).

And with the farm two miles offshore, it's not as unsightly and people who want to tamper with it for kicks end up having to boat/jetski all the way out there just for a silly prank.

Hi thanotosluna, JustInterested and Phoenixz33,

Like any system that extracts power from a "periodic" source... it needs to be tuned. Close to the shore it would be more chaotic but one or two miles out it will be relatively stable source of "oscillation". You can tune mechanical systems too as well as electronic systems. There are parts that are equivalent to resistors, capacitors and inductors in the mechanical system that would need to be optimized. In shallow water much of the energy will be expended as longitudinal forces (back and forth surging) whereas out to sea they will be predominately transverse forces (up and down bobbing). Remember when the depth of the water is less that about one and a half wavelengths deep it is going to tend to cause the wave to "break" and the chaos will destroy the energy. This gadget is like some of those kids toys that have a vertically oscillating core that extracts the energy when you shake them up and down and "squeaks" or "moos" ... come to think of it how are these "jokers" going to patent this thing if they copy kids toys... he he he!.

Cheers

Oh really ya boo hoo science what?

Hahahaha you heard da mumma!

Yeah, I suppose that getting the power of the waves (close to shore) you would use a generator, like Niagara Falls; using the waves to turn the generator.

Hi justinterested,

Yep that the thing... It helps to pick your locality just right too. For instance the Bay of Fundy is a "natural" for that sort of power. Sometimes though continuity of power is more important than the amount of power itself. This is why the device is being considered. Look at wind energy and solar power where a "quiet" overcast day would be the worst disaster for industry if that was all you relied on. I have a soft spot for Geothermal Energy myself. Here in Australia we are beginning to tap this energy from the earths core. This is expected to supply all of Australia's power from this one site (Harbanera II) for at least the next 70 years. Suitable deep sites are everywhere and there is no pollution and it is "renewable".

Hot Rock Energy
This energy is starting to be tapped now. We will have total energy independence "forever".

Cheers

Where is that picy from GoodElf?, I would like to learn more about this, it seems very interisting.


EDIT: forget that GoodElf, sorry, guess I should just open my eye's a bit wider.

Hot Rock Energy
This energy is starting to be tapped now. We will have total energy independence "forever".

Cheers

Cheers to you! Geothermal energy looks almost utopian; it is a renewable, inexhaustable energy source and if your information is correct, it will cost the same as fossil fuel power. The twin threats of an oil shortage and greenhouse effect weather changes make it necessary to put more money to develop geothermal energy especially hot rock energy using two working fluids. It seems to be practical now.

Windmills are UGLY! I saw a simulated picture of windmills two miles of the shore of Long Island and it is not worth the energy they will give if it ruins the view! Put windmill farms where they wont spoil the view or use other types of energy like geothermal and solar.

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Hi Neil Farbstein and Toucan,

I am glad you like the "solution". There are "Hot Rocks" almost everywhere and I suggest that you guys should "get some".

A second project has already started called "Green Rocks".....Friday, 13 May 2005. 07:30 (ACST)...
http://www.abc.net.au/news/australia/sa/po...05/s1367523.htm

This is additional to the Habanero II Hot Rocks Program mentioned above. It is a race to get these things up and running... and on the National Grid.

Both of these are different (Geo-Dynamics and WMC) and both claim to be able to supply all Australia Electric Power needs into the distant future. He he he!

Cheers

"Five kilometers underneath Australia, vast deposits of granites have been sizzling away since the world began. At temperatures of nearly 300 Celsius they contain enough energy to generate Australia's entire electricity supply for the next 800 years!"

Sorry, but we've heard that kind of talk before. Do you remember, or have you read about, the early days of nuclear power? They were going to do away with the meter on your house. Electricity would be so cheap and plentiful that everyone would pay just a small monthly fee, regardless of consumption.

Geothermal power sounds like a promising technology, but let's not get carried away. Otherwise we may be disappointed when it's discovered that wholesale cooling of the Earth's interior is having unforeseen effects, etc. (Mamoth sink holes? Man-made volcanos?)

I am in no way arguing against development and use of the technology, just recommending that enthusiasm be held to appropriate levels. If there's one thing we should have learned by now, it's the fact that there is no free lunch!

NR

I actually think the wave theory to be the most interisting,
The more I think about it, the more ways I think of adapting it, to run a generater in such a way never occured to me. but now it seems as almost painfully obvious as the benifits of having a hydro power station at Niagara falls.