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Hopeless
Posted: Mar 6 2006, 07:43 PM


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You have a lot of strong points, I was trying to look at it disregarding the politics because I feel it's a little futile to try to win over peace considering the political situation.

So I thought even if war is just a tool of politics, the tool itself doesn't even seem to be working.

It now seems evident, as it was relatively before that the tool wasn't designed to work in these situations.

Still the military was employed, so I think the least they could do would be to kill the obstacles even if it does result in a full war against the country it's not like the US could lose.

I hate to see the military used sparingly, war is something you come to at and end, and you see it through to the end.

In go, if you play aggressively and strike to far into your opponents territory where you will lose it's still better to continue the strike than to retreat and use other means. You lose less footing that way. I wonder if that anology worked out right
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Posted: Mar 6 2006, 09:47 PM


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Still the military was employed, so I think the least they could do would be to kill the obstacles even if it does result in a full war against the country it's not like the US could lose.


Have you ever heard of Vietnam? Big war, no retreat, huge loss of life on both sides. Thats what I call a loss. The number of innocent people killed was atrocious.

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I hate to see the military used sparingly, war is something you come to at and end, and you see it through to the end.


War isn't pleasant. By using the Military people DIE. You just can't kill people because you want to get your own way. That makes the US no better than thugs and ensures them the worst reputation in the Middle East. Of course you intend to solve that by keeping soldiers over there.

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In go, if you play aggressively and strike to far into your opponents territory where you will lose it's still better to continue the strike than to retreat and use other means. You lose less footing that way.


Learn from history. "If we do not learn from our mistakes there is no point in having them." Vietnam was a mistake.


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Posted: Mar 7 2006, 12:30 AM


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QUOTE (spaghettihoop)
Learn from history. "If we do not learn from our mistakes there is no point in having them." Vietnam was a mistake.

So now Vietnam will forever be in vain.

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It's now a terrorist cel because we went in.

Don't I know it. dry.gif You know, I will admit. I was bulled. I did think (at first) that we should go into Iraq. I thought it had WMDs. I thought we could help that country. I thought it would make the world a better place. I only wished I saw then what I do now. dry.gif I don't know what I would have been able to do, but it would make me feel better.

Really, we had no right to throw Saddom out of power. We were nosing in something that was none of our business. After all, we Americans don't like what our government is doing. Should, say, China, swarm through Canada and throw Bush out of power? (I know he's nothing compared to Saddom, but work with me). And how would we feel if the Chinese make everything worse, instead of better? What if this sparks a religious war between the Christians and the Athiests? What if the minority (the Athiests), who no longer have the upper hand in the government, decide to kick some Christian *** because they no longer have the government?

That would be very bad.

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Kerry is spineless. He makes his decisions based on what public opinion says. But isn't that what we want?

It's not what I want. I want a president who knows what the *** he's (she's) doing! I know Bush doesn't. But to have a president who does what he thinks the people want is suicidal. After all, does the given public know a damn thing about economics? He could run this country into the sh*ts. Besides, he just said what the people wanted to hear. That does NOT mean that's what he's going to do.

Do you know the governer of Missouri? Matt Blunt? He is our version of John Kerry. He said what the people wanted to hear, and then did the exact opposite. By the way, the state is now in the sh*ts. Better the state than the whole country, egh?

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No matter what wounds Kerry received to get his purple hearts, and you can receive more than one Purple Heart,

I should have known better than to believe what my stepfather says, even if he was in the military. After all, he still thinks women have one more rib than men.

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We are in a huge mess in Iraq.

Don't I know it.

We can not leave Iraq without some sort of stability, otherwise the terrorists will be victorious. My question is, what the hell do we do? It's like fisting a bee hive to get at its honey (and I don't mean anything about oil). What I'm saying is, it's like trying to win a war against terror, and attacking China.

You're probably wondering, what's the deal with China? Simple, it's one of the only countries that can match the U.S. in power.


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Thomas the Gardener
Posted: Mar 7 2006, 06:28 PM


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But back to the topic:

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555Joshua
Posted: Mar 8 2006, 11:46 PM


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I see your point, and I, in no way agree with them. They're idiots, what can I say? If we debate about chriationists (I do not consider myself a chriationist, 'cause, they're too ridiculous for my tastes), we really wouldn't be debating, now would we?


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