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> Parallel Universes, Supposed "Proof"
Gehn
Posted: Sep 24 2007, 06:07 PM


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http://tech.uk.msn.com/news/article.aspx?c...umentid=6212162

But if all they've proven is that they fit nicely with a number of mathematical conundrums, should they be saying that parallel universes definitely exist?


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Sapo
Posted: Sep 24 2007, 06:25 PM


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Tough one. We'll have to wait for AN to enliven the discussion, but how about this:

If an observation causes a collapse of a wave function, the (assumed) cloud of parallel universes existed in the moment before the observation. Sum-over-histories brings us to _a_ now, and there's no way to know _which_ now, any more than what _will_ happen next. If God does play dice, he gets _all_ the rolls at one time... So, there. blink.gif
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Posted: Sep 24 2007, 07:17 PM


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So what happens in the universes where no life is present? If parallel universes come about due to observations, what happens in the universes where there isnt any mechanism present to observe. Afterall, they must exists at some level of probability, right?

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Sapo
Posted: Sep 24 2007, 07:22 PM


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An observation in this sense doesn't require that you be present. laugh.gif
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I meant any and all mechanisms to "observe" in the sense of the proposed theory.

The theory itself lends the possibility that a parallel universe could exist where there is no observation present. My question is what happens in that universe?

I would assume that nothing happens and an unobservable universe simply exists not doing anything within itself. It just exists.
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Sapo
Posted: Sep 24 2007, 08:24 PM


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The point is that a parallel universe is infinitesimally different from its neighbors at the moment of observation, so nearly the same thing happens 'there' as does 'here'. Discussing 'which' universe we belong to is meaningless.
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Posted: Oct 11 2007, 06:23 PM


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There is a parallel dimensional rip right inside the center of the Bermuda Triangle, where do you think all those planes and ships disappeared too? Answer = they traveled through a dimensional rip between the parellel dimensions, as Einstein said, our dimensional universe is on parellel beside another dimension similar to ours and a dimensional rip or wormhole is the part that connects the 2 together. What happens in the seperate parallel universe beside ours? well, we can only imagine what our world would be like if Hitler took control of the world, or if Greece didn't conquer Persia, but instead Persia conquered the world instead of the Europeans, thus we might probably all be enslaved under the command of Ahmajinadad, which then the most important event in the U.S. wouldn't be the American Revolution, but the Iraqi Revolution in the Middle-East, Iraq qould be the most powerful democratic nation in the world, and Osama Bin Laden would probably be one of the most important five-star generals trying to maintain the stability in America. As for Israel, it wouldn't be there, because Jesus Christ never existed.
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Posted: Oct 11 2007, 07:00 PM


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Since when did you become the whako magnet, Sapo?
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Posted: Oct 11 2007, 08:24 PM


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QUOTE (Gehn @ Sep 24 2007, 06:07 PM)
http://tech.uk.msn.com/news/article.aspx?c...umentid=6212162

But if all they've proven is that they fit nicely with a number of mathematical conundrums, should they be saying that parallel universes definitely exist?

Parallel brain cells is whats needed... You're out of luck! since you only have one.


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Sapo
Posted: Oct 11 2007, 09:22 PM


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QUOTE (Ron @ Oct 11 2007, 02:00 PM)
Since when did you become the whako magnet, Sapo?

laugh.gif Thanks, I think. I thought Rabbit needed the help?
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Posted: Oct 12 2007, 01:27 AM


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A motorist who has a near miss, for instance, might feel relieved at his lucky escape. But in a parallel universe, another version of the same driver will have been killed. Yet another universe will see the motorist recover after treatment in hospital. The number of alternative scenarios is endless.

is far from being proved experimentally, then disappearing gravitons or sparticles. i think the champagne should be saved until at least after LHC fires up.

if extra dimensions are experimentally detected, can it be assumed that the many-worlds interpretation is correct to the extent that the other dimensions are spatial and temporal ? if there are 3+1 (for the first motorist) and a further n(3+1), then are we not talking about quantization of infinite dimensions?

how is the information transferred to the second, third etc universe ie how does each universe continue the scenario. is an infinite amount of information being created?
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Posted: Oct 13 2007, 11:07 PM


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QUOTE (ASSBAG @ Sep 25 2007, 09:11 AM)
I meant any and all mechanisms to "observe" in the sense of the proposed theory.

The theory itself lends the possibility that a parallel universe could exist where there is no observation present. My question is what happens in that universe?

I would assume that nothing happens and an unobservable universe simply exists not doing anything within itself. It just exists.

Observation does not imply intelligence.


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Sapo
Posted: Oct 14 2007, 01:18 AM


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Sometimes, even a response to an observation can't be evidence of intelligence. biggrin.gif
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Posted: Oct 14 2007, 01:47 AM


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Sorry, got cut off. Perhaps other dimensions are nothing more then the "legs on a chair". You will not notice them until one is missing. To take into account that which we can not see/hear/smell and assume such things don't exist, can you see smell or feel x-rays, radio? We know such things exist because we can build machines that "convert" that frequency into something we can detect...
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