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| Derek1148 |
Posted: Sep 16 2007, 11:32 PM
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I could use some help with the following proofs:
1. Prove that 2^(2^n) + 1 and 2^(2^m) + 1 are relatively prime where m and n are integers. 2. Essentially a proof of egyptian fractions. Show that for any m,n that m/n = 1/R1 + 1/R2 + .... + 1/Rk. Thanks in advance. -------------------- "Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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| AlphaNumeric |
Posted: Sep 17 2007, 07:51 AM
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They are known as Fermat Primes.
There's a STEP II question from 2002 (question 5?) which walks you through how to prove they are relatively prime due to them obeying some iterative relation which I cannot currently remember. I had to do that question during an exam, hence how I remember 'Fermant Primes' but I dont remember the relation unfortunately. Equation (5) here might be useful. -------------------- The views in the above post are those of its author and not those of the people who educated him through a degree and masters, supervised him or collaborated with him during his PhD, paid him to teach and mark undergraduate mathematics and physics courses or who pay him to do research now.
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| mr_homm |
Posted: Sep 17 2007, 02:55 PM
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Is the second question not trivial? There must be some further restriction on the possible values of the R's, or maybe of k, because otherwise you could just use 1/n + 1/n + ... + 1/n for m terms.
I think some clarification is necessary before the problem can be approached successfully. As for the first problem, I think there is a non-iterative proof: Let k be a common factor of the two numbers. Then 2^(2^n)+1 = 0 mod k, and 2^(2^m)+1 = 0 mod k. Therefore, 2^(2^n) = -1 mod k, and 2^(2^m) = -1 mod k. Now suppose n>m; then 2^(2^n) = (2^(2^m))^(2^(n-m)). Reducing modulo k gives (-1)^(2^(n-m)) = -1. But the exponent here is even unless n=m, and (-1)^(even) = 1, both in the usual integers and in modular arithmetic. Hence, k can be a common factor of the two given numbers only if n=m or if -1=1 mod k. The case n=m is explicitly disallowed (of course, since then the two numbers are equal and the theorem would be trivially false). The equation -1=1 mod k can only be true if 1+1=0 mod k, so k must be 2. But both the given numbers are obviously odd, so 2 is not a factor of either of them. This eliminates all possible common factors. QED Hope this helps! --Stuart Anderson -------------------- A hallmark of intelligence is the ability to give precise answers to vague questions.
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| Derek1148 |
Posted: Sep 17 2007, 08:00 PM
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Thanks.
This post has been edited by Derek1148 on Sep 17 2007, 08:02 PM -------------------- "Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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