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Energy Revolution, Full story at http://www.physorg.com/news106245164.html| et1pisano |
Posted: Aug 13 2007, 10:17 PM
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http://www.physorg.com/news106245164.html
Metrics!!! I hate when I see something on here that doesn"t include performance metrics. What is the energy density of this power-paper? If it could be powered by sweat would it be possible for it to be used as a sort of permanent fuel cell you could re-energize with saline solution? Its very hard to get anything more than semi excited about something like this without more information. However, this advent, if high in energy density, could very easily revolutionize the entire energy industry, especially if the paper can be catalyzed by simple, non-toxic liquid electrolytes. |
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| daily reader 1234 |
Posted: Aug 13 2007, 10:35 PM
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I just want this to actually get produced and sold to consumers, not just bought and buried by some big corporation. I am just so tired of large corporations hindering innovation to protect thier profits. It would make me happy for this technology to get produced, because, for gods sake, current batteries are really crappy and are slowing our technical progress.
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| Neil Farbstein |
Posted: Aug 13 2007, 10:44 PM
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Vulvox Nanobiotechnology Corporation is developing a lithium ion battery using cheaply manuafactured nanoparticles to store recrord amounts of power and energy; 4200 kWh/kg. If you are interested in a partnership with Vulvox
Contact Neil Farbstein 516-921-5058 protn7@att.net -------------------- Life is a tale told by an idiot full of sound and fury; signifying nothing...Tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow, but tomorrow never comes. -William Shakespeare.
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| Alpha |
Posted: Aug 14 2007, 12:57 PM
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Interesting. But my Corporation - "NanoBozo Charlatan Inc" has developed a much better battery. 15000 kWh/kg!!! Contact me, if you are interested in partnership. -------------------- Member of Forum Mafia.
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| Nit Picker |
Posted: Aug 14 2007, 06:05 PM
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I was hoping to read about a system powered by blood sugar. "Using body fluids as an electrolyte" is very different from "powered by body fluids".
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| laserbiker |
Posted: Aug 14 2007, 10:56 PM
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 What total bullshit! 4200kWh / Kg This has 200,000 times the power density of my prius battery. A one kg battery (2.2lbs) could power an average house for four months! It can be powered by blood..... |
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| D B Ross |
 Posted: Aug 16 2007, 11:32 AM
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Remarkable! A proven ability to print out battery/capacitor medium as easily as one prints out a document! If the mfg technique can be executed inexpensively on par with producing high grade paper, the energy potential to area ratio would be almost irrelevant. Heat buildup would then be the biggest concern I would think. However, can this material be recycled? That would be an added bonus.
Once all of this is perfected, realistically how much of a danger are we from BIG Oil or others from buying up the technology and promptly burying it? One would assume that the researchers at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute now R & D'ing this material would make billions as a stand alone offshoot corporation. |
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| Guest |
Posted: Aug 17 2007, 07:26 PM
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The metric below is from an EE Times article.
Can someone make the necessary conversions to compare the power density of about 0.6 milliamps/cm2 for the paper battery to secondary lithium-ion Polymer batteries at 130 - 1200 Wh/kg*? |
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| StevenA |
Posted: Aug 17 2007, 07:39 PM
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Yes, they didn't appear to provide much information about how usefully it would perform. I've got a spring here that's an energy storage device and you can put a little sweat into powering it also! LOL  This post has been edited by StevenA on Aug 17 2007, 07:41 PM |
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