Gay Bashing... ignorance, at best..., Full story at http://www.physorg.com/news102591950.html

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I never understood straight men's hatered of gay men. Don't they realise that every man who is gay, is one less man competing for the available women?

If it is true that ignorance is bliss, homophobes must be the happiest people on the face of the earth...

This post has been edited by Argiod on Jul 3 2007, 06:41 AM

What a croc of propaganda. Of course, only out of CA and out of UC.

I am so sick of this blatant attempt to create another protected class of whiny "oh, please, please, I am so offended" mamby pambys.

When Islam really gains a foothold in this country and becomes politically relevant, then the so called "gay" community is going to wish to GOD that for the good ol' days when the Christians were in the majority.

What BS.

LDW, Palmer, Alaska

So the next time your civil rights are violated, you will just suck it up and thank your god that you're not living in Iran. Go ahead and organize a drive to abolish the judiciary branch of our government, because in your mind we obviously have no need for it.

They probably have the same issues against other " sexual minority adult" groups.

i.e.

Those who seek sexual acts with minors

Those who seek sexual acts with animals

Those who seek sexual acts with life-size dolls

Obviously there are some differences (eg. some of these are always victimless, some can be consensual, etc.), but they all seem to be against nature's intentions.

Those of us who are rational-minded can at least hold a level of understanding for groups of people who are different, and then there are people that fear these groups because they perceive their numbers growing and perceive them holding more and more prominent positions (although in truth they have often held those positions but chose to keep their sexual preferences private).

Obviously these people are still human and deserve human rights to apply. Hate crimes are wrong, and are born from the two wrongs make a right attitude.

People with phobias are generally not considered the happiest people on earth. For example, an earthaphobe would possibly be the unhappiest person on earth. It is unfair to show no understanding of homophobia while expecting them to understand homosexuality.

I can imagine robbers targeting men because they are gay. Not! Theft and vandalism has become normal in today's society and claiming it is done solely because someone is gay is nonsense. As to verbal abuse, hasn't everyone had it at some time or other?

If people suffer discrimination because they are gay, isn't this because they have advertised they are gay? Gay people do not have the word "GAY" stamped on their foreheads. In cases where gays have been beaten up, it is often the case that they have touched up or propositioned a straight man. There is a difference between what is accepted and what is tolerated. If gay people want to be integrated into society, they should try to blend in rather than seeking special rights and trying to force everyone else to love them. I don't go around telling people what I like in the way of sex and women and don't see why gays should try to shove their lifestyle in my face. Doing so invites comment and there will be adverse comments.

Yeah. And black people should've just painted their faces white. And the Jews need to stop being so Jewy. And women need to get some balls.

(That was sarcasm, BTW.)

I do not slip into conversations or introduce myself to others by telling them I like a nice pair of boobs on a woman. Not big ones but just good looking ones and certainly not silicon boobs. What is it about homosexuals that they think other people, even total strangers want to know that they like anal sex with other men? Anyone who makes such comments is just asking for an undesired reply. Wake up gays. We don't want to know.

Why don't you register J instead of hiding behind anonymity?

Many blacks just get on with their life and because they don't make an issue of their colour or try to cash in on it so they are treated as others are. Jews have made many enemies over millennia with the Romans trying to exterminate them and with them being hated across Europe in the Middle Ages because of their monetary habits. They are also the original racists (I assume you are a gentile, not a jew?) and they do not believe in inter-marrying. As you say, they should stop being so 'Jewy'. Many young women nowadays seem to have found a very good substitute for balls and can be more aggressive than men, to their detriment.

Stories like these come across as more hype than anything else and intentionally done to make a story. Does such abuse occur? Of course, but as the saying goes, the devil is in the details.

This was based on a survey of an incredibly small number of people and based upon the opinions of those surveyed. To call this a study is a joke.

Note the line “This is the most reliable estimate to date of the prevalence of anti-gay victimization in the United States.”

Not to sound cold to any issue of abuse, but stories like this and “studies” like this have a negative effect once the details get out and after a time will cause more harm than good.

This post has been edited by GeneSplicer on Jul 23 2007, 10:19 PM

why should homosexuals have to blend into society? what society are they blending into, a white-majority, hetrosexual American society? i don't see people changing their skin color to blend into this society... oh wait some people do bleach their skin and have plastic surgery.

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I find it interesting that people argue with posts like this. I am against all the whining that people do, so don't get me wrong. I have never hid the fact that I am gay, nor do I apologize, or bitch about how unfairly I am treated. However, I do support posts like this as they remind us that we are a target group for those that would rather see us dead, or otherwise maimed, then as an equal. My thought on it is this...if you are going to bitch about it then have the balls to do something to change it, don't bitch just to join the corus. And if you are going to bitch about people who 'whine' then try to figure out what you can do to solve the problem, so that they don't have to bitch, instead of feeding fuel to the fire. Bottom line, DON'T BITCH IF YOU YOURSELF AREN'T GOING TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE PROBLEM!

Oh please, don't blame homosexuality on genetics.

Bunch of hypocrites. If homosexuality was genetic, then nobody would be a homosexual because the gene would never get passed down.

And so-called "christian" homosexuals, don't say "God made me this way".

With sufficient pressure to conform to an outward appearance of standard heterosexual behavior, it is clear that even if homosexuality were 100% genetically determined, the gene would be passed down. Under this model, you would have a non-zero incidence of people suddenly discovering that the person they were married to for a number of years is, in fact, gay. Which conforms with what is observed.

If homosexuality were 100% a choice, then it would be only a choice made by masochists. Which is not what is observed at gatherings of homosexual sado-masochists.

The Catholic church has for some centuries now held it to be a heresy to assign creative powers to Satan and his devils. So if God does not make gay people, who does?

Now, Jesus is an interesting fellow. If standard mythology is true, he didn't get married off at 15-18 years and didn't conform to standard heterosexual practices. In the alternative, he abandoned his wife when he turned 30. The bible remains silent on these issues. (These thoughts not original to me, I think they are from a novel by Piers Anthony.)

And Piers Anthony is a strange sort, but sort of readable, sometimes. I forgive you for bringing him into it.

But you just wanted a spirited discussion...

As far as conclusive scientific studies go, this is probably lacking, but to discount the fact that gay bashing in some form occurs often because of the downfalls in this study is crazy. I don't think I know a gay man who has not been the victim of some type of harassment only because they are gay.

To all of the people who are talking about whining.......I have a question for you. Have you ever been discriminated against because of your sexual preference (Or if you are a white male.....for any characteristic out of your control) As a straight white male I can honestly say I have never been discrimated against in my entire life. How lucky I am. If any of you fall into the same category as me, then how can you, with any integrity at all, tell others, who are victims of something you have never experienced, call them whiners? Its incredibly stupid.

The fact that about half of the comments on this thread would be considered homophobic illustrates the point that this kind of intolerance not only exists, but is quite prevelant.

Homosexuality has prevelant in other species besides humans, and can serve an important purpose to help the group survive. In animals that live in groups, group behavior needs to be analyzed when discussing evolution. For example, homosexuality is documented in wolf packs. Homosexuality keeps infighting within the group over females so the group can stay together instead of fighting within it self.

Also, the most recent thing I have heard with genetics in humans and homosexuality is that homosexuality is that it has both a genetic cause, and an environmental trigger. The best evidence for this would be identical twins. With the same genetic code, if homosexuality were a choice, if one twin was homosexual, then ~10% of the other twins would be homosexual (as ~10% is the percentage of homosexuals in society). If it was 100% genetic then it would of course be 100% that the second twin would be gay, however from the numbers I have seen its from about 40%-60%. These numbers are also in agreement with other genetic dispositions with environmental triggers.

So you have actually met gay men who have started a conversation with "hi, my name is _____ and I like anal sex with other men"? Seriously, unless this has actually happened to you, AND did not happen at a gay bar (because straight men say things this stupid to women at bars when they are drunk) you have no right to claim gay men behave this way. Out of all of the gay men I know, the fact that they were gay came out very long after I met them. Much longer than it has been apparent that a straight person I met was straight. Not only that, but even with the gay couples I know, and have known for years, I have never seen them kiss, hold hands or anything of the sort. In my personal experience homosexuals are WAY more private with their sex lives than any straight people I know.