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| plmokn |
Posted: Jun 30 2007, 09:30 PM
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Sorry about the lack of formating, _{abc} means subscript.
I don't understand the question below from a textbook, (I'll copy out a bit from before it so it makes sense)any explaination would be appreciated.: If (under a linear operator A) the basis vectors suffer a change: A|i> =|i'> then any vector, V, in the space undergos a change that is readily calculable: <i|V'>=<i|A|V> =v_{j}<i|A|j> =A_{ij}v_{j} where a sum over j is implied and v_j are the original components of V in the original coordinates. Which can be cast in matrix form. The book then says: Convince youself that the same matrix A_{ij}/latex] acting to the left on the row vector corresponding to any <v'| gives the row vector corresponding to <v''|=<v'|A. This is the bit I don't understand. Second question is, given A and B are Hermitian operators what can you say about [A,B] (the commutator)? If it's possible to give me a hint rather than a whole answer that would be great but if that's not possible an answer would be fine as well. Thanks (and sorry this is really basic). |
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| AlphaNumeric |
Posted: Jul 1 2007, 12:44 AM
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1. If A|v'> = |v''> then taking the Hermitian conjugate gives <v''| = <v'|A^(dagger). Since A is Hermitian, A^(dagger) = A, so <v''| = <v'|A.
2. If you know that A = A^dagger and B = B^dagger, then that's ([A,B])^dagger? -------------------- The views in the above post are those of its author and not those of the people who educated him through a degree and masters, supervised him or collaborated with him during his PhD, paid him to teach and mark undergraduate mathematics and physics courses or who pay him to do research now.
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| plmokn |
Posted: Jul 1 2007, 07:34 PM
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Thank you.
So [AB] is always real for hermitian A, B and imaginary for anti-hermitian A,B. |
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| plmokn |
Posted: Jul 1 2007, 09:05 PM
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Last post should obviously have said pure imaginary for hermitian A,B...
Sorry I should have been more specific, in the first part of the question I don't think they are assuming A is hermitian. On the very off chance you happen to have the book on a shelf next to your computer its p22 in Shankar's book on QM (though of course I don't expect you do). Thank you This post has been edited by plmokn on Jul 1 2007, 09:23 PM |
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| plmokn |
Posted: Jul 2 2007, 12:18 AM
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I'm really not having a good day: post above should have said:
I don't think A is necessarily hermitian |
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| AlphaNumeric |
Posted: Jul 2 2007, 02:59 AM
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<j|A|i> can be split up as (<j|) (A|i>) or (<j|A) (|i>). This is because the inner product is preserved by such a decomposition. However, if A is not hermitian then A|j> and <j|A are not (co)vector equivalents. Generally you're working over a complex vector space so to get the conjugate of things, you take the complex conjuage, so you'd have A|i> <--> <i|A^(dagger). Therefore <i|A^(dagger) = <i|A if and only if either A is Hermitian over a complex vector space or A is symmetric over a Real vector space (which reduces it to the equivalent of hermitian)
No. If A and B are Hermitian then you have the following :
[A,B] = AB-BA ([A,B])^(dagger) = (AB-BA)^(dagger) = (AB)^(dagger) - (BA)^dagger = B^dag A^dag - A^dag B^dag = BA-AB = [B,A] = -[A,B]. Therefore, if A,B are Hermitian, then [A,B] is antihermitian. -------------------- The views in the above post are those of its author and not those of the people who educated him through a degree and masters, supervised him or collaborated with him during his PhD, paid him to teach and mark undergraduate mathematics and physics courses or who pay him to do research now.
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| plmokn |
Posted: Jul 2 2007, 11:31 AM
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Thank you.
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