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Roarie22
Posted: Jun 8 2007, 02:08 AM


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I've been discussing String and M Theory with some of my friends, and I've come across something I can't figure out.

Anti-Time.

As is a basic element of life, things have a positive and a negative.

Matter and Antimatter.
Gravity and Anti-gravity.
Proton and Electron.

My question is, what is the opposite of time? What is Anti-Time?

I'll add in any information I come up with, but if anyone could give some ideas, it would much appreciated.
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Posted: Jun 8 2007, 06:31 AM


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amrit
Posted: Jun 8 2007, 07:27 AM


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QUOTE (Roarie22 @ Jun 8 2007, 02:08 AM)
I've been discussing String and M Theory with some of my friends, and I've come across something I can't figure out.

Anti-Time.

As is a basic element of life, things have a positive and a negative.

Matter and Antimatter.
Gravity and Anti-gravity.
Proton and Electron.

My question is, what is the opposite of time? What is Anti-Time?

I'll add in any information I come up with, but if anyone could give some ideas, it would much appreciated.

anti-time is mind f××÷×÷ck of your mind


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Posted: Jun 8 2007, 08:13 AM


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By contemporary physics the time is defined by many distinct ways ( the radiative, thermodynamic, imaginary, cosmological or psychological time arrow). Furthermore we should realize, many time arrows can be distinguished at the different level of nested Aether quantum foam (i.e. the foam formed by another foam, recursively). While the Aether bubbles at one level of Aether nested foam can expand, the another ones can collapse. By AWT it's relatively easy to imagine the negative thermodynamical time arrow. It's the state of particles, where the density of Aether increases by such way, the gravity becomes repulsive force and the particle are dissolving in the vacuum. Such state can appear near the black holes, where the gravitational gradient and density of Aether becomes more intensive, then the density of Aether bubbles.

The anti-time should correspond the two model of radiative time arrow, developed recently. By AWT the surfaces of aether bubbles are paired by the same way, like the surfaces of bubbles inside of soap foam. When the density of foam increase, the foam bubbles will become smaller and the wall between foam bubbles thicker. While the energy spreading is mediated by surfaces of foam, the foam becomes birefringent and occasionally multirefringent. It means, the light would spread along the doubled path by the same way, like the light in the birefringent calcite and every event will obtain a pair of causal consequences. The second time corresponds the antimatter particles. These phenomena can be observed like the birefringence of vacuum in the presence of strong magnetic and gravitational field, the doubling of event horizon due the charged black holes rotation and another "real life" phenomena.

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amrit
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zephir you are totally lost into your mind
anty time is a pure nonsense

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Posted: Jun 8 2007, 11:14 AM


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Time is a derived function of physical world - without physical expressions you have no chance to define a change / motion. So anti-time or what you like to call it, is a situation where there are No Time. In informational world there is no such thing as a frozen moment (physical expression) - and therefore no time. Or perhaps there exist such a thing as the inverse of time - whatever that is.


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Posted: Jun 8 2007, 11:31 AM


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the time can be seen as creations of the human mind.but in the physical world,
where occur changes of places,states and others,cann't think in the universe with
something that calcules those changes.Then I THINK THAT THE TOPOLOGIC CHANGES DURING THE EVOLUTIONS OF THE UNIVERSE,GENERATED THE ENTITY,THAT CALLED,TIME,AND BECAME IT THE MEASURE OF THE SPACETIME,THROUGH OF THE CURVATURES,PRODUCED BY THE BREAKDOWN OF
CONTINUITY OF THE LINEAR AND FLAT STRUCTURES OF UNIVERSE;THAT IS THE
COLLAPSE OF PT,CONNECTED TOGETHER WITH BOTH LORENTZ TRANSFORMATIONS,THAT IMPLY A ANTI-LINEAR OPERATOR,THAT GEN ERATES
CURVATURES OF SPACETIMES INTO A NON_LINEAR STRUCTURE.
Look to the FORCE OF CASIMIR THAT VALUES TWO TIMES MINOR THAT THE VACCUM.THEN THESE FORCE IS DIRECTIONED TO THAT THE NEGATIVE TIME,is localized in the energy states that negative,but that in Modulli is positive,into of the
uniform relative motions( are rotations with opposite motions ).then in thse states,
the energy is encapsulated in the holes,that are deformations,negatives to the space.
iI think what ZEPHIR HAS REASON,WHEN SPEAKS ON THE TWO_DIMENSIONS OF TIMES,BEING THE ANTIPARTICLES THE SECOND,ORIGINATED BY THE COLAPSE
OF PT.images of Mirrors and antimirros are ASYMMETRICS.
DURING the evolutions of cosmos many particles,and the space and time that
existed in that past( can have occured infinities bifurcations of spacetimes),but
these particles,time and space were compactified to higher dimensions( produced
by breaks of SYMETRY OF PT,TO MATTER,TIME AND SPACE),where these particles
spacetime exist in those dimensions,where is keeped the informations of the
universes of low-energy.when occur the system inverse,occur the breakdown of supersymmetry,that does appear the continuos spacetime and matter,originated
by these dimensions( the subparticles-are the superpartners,and the subspacetimes).Then the BH in its multiples curves of spacetime to beyond event
horizons,has all the these subspacetimes.
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QUOTE (amrit @ Jun 8 2007, 08:36 AM)
zephir you are totally lost into your mind
anty time is a pure nonsense

..funny you say that, I had alot to say here but I will say this:

time/light are relative to each other, so, as time/light proceeds over the event horizon[BH] it will be drawn in to no escape, therefor relative to each other just as light cannot "be" nor can time. it is between the event horizon and the singularity, in this 'zone' where one could say, there is where you find anti-time.


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QUOTE (amrit @ Jun 8 2007, 04:36 AM)
zephir you are totally lost into your mind

ME TOO! laugh.gif laugh.gif

But...
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anty time is a pure nonsense
Yes.


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QUOTE (sweatty_black_hole @ Jun 8 2007, 02:35 PM)
..funny you say that, I had alot to say here but I will say this:

time/light are relative to each other, so, as time/light proceeds over the event horizon[BH] it will be drawn in to no escape, therefor relative to each other just as light cannot "be" nor can time. it is between the event horizon and the singularity, in this 'zone' where one could say, there is where you find anti-time.


NO? wink.gif

inside Schwartschild material particles transform into space
if in space nothing happen (no material change) time is not there
in this sense space is a-temporal
maybe one could say anty-time

light (photon) moves into space.
from one planck distance to another planck distance and so on
time here is numerical order of motion
Planck time here is unit of time

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Posted: Jun 8 2007, 03:56 PM


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Roarie22. Matter and anti-matter.


Protons and electrons are just like north and south poles of a magnetic.


No anti-gravity. Only the silly fudge called dark energy.


You can't have anti-time any more than you can have anti-light (darkness is merely it's absence). If time actually existed rather than being a mathematical convenience, anti-time would mean effect before cause as everything reversed itself.


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Posted: Jun 8 2007, 04:11 PM


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QUOTE (kaneda @ Jun 8 2007, 08:56 AM)
Roarie22. Matter and anti-matter.


Protons and electrons are just like north and south poles of a magnetic.


No anti-gravity. Only the silly fudge called dark energy.


You can't have anti-time any more than you can have anti-light (darkness is merely it's absence). If time actually existed rather than being a mathematical convenience, anti-time would mean effect before cause as everything reversed itself.

effect before cause.....


is that possible?

reminds me of this experiment that i read about, im sure you guys are familiar...

two particles are sent out on different paths, to encounter at different points, the same stimuli.....right.....at different times, under different conditions...so one would think the reaction of the two particles would be different...

it was the same reaction every time....as if the particles were programmed...

sometimes it seems as if things are programmed.....and the program is running....so the final outcome, has already happened, in a way...right?

isnt that effect before cause....

that could be anti time...

and its funny to me how you guys are so passionate about calling someone out of there mind and being so sure that there cant possibly be anti time.....

we dont even really know what time is.......

ya know? so who are we to talk of things as if we know for sure?

that seems unintelligent---

a great scientist once told me....all things are possible....

isnt that true?

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And time can go soooo slow at times.
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Posted: Jun 8 2007, 04:21 PM


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QUOTE (DocN @ Jun 8 2007, 09:13 AM)
And time can go soooo slow at times.

right doc....time cannot be measured as equal intervals...can it?

not all the "time"

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QUOTE (amrit @ Jun 8 2007, 11:36 AM)
...any time is a pure nonsense...

By my opinion, the time is the same BS like the space, energy or inertia. All these concepts are pretty symmetric and each of them can by expressed mutually by using of the remaining concepts. The time appears as the very same fractal sponge from our local perspective, like the other quantities, including the space. Therefore from general point of view nothing really exists, only the differently named gradients of Aether density. The time is important for general understanding of reality by the same way, like the space or energy, so it has own solid place in the physics. It helps us see the reality causual. While the very general physics should be independent to the energy, inertia, time, space or even particle concepts, it's disputable, whether it would remain unfalsifiable in the scope of these concepts, after then.

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