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Aging, Leakiness Of Nucleus Membrane
The Aging Whole Being A Construct Of Its Constituents


A. "As cells age, the nucleus lets the bad guys in"

http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id...the_bad_guys_in

A study tracks a growing 'leakiness' in the membrane of the cell nucleus that could contribute to aging and even to diseases such as Parkinson's and Alzheimer's.

B. The nucleus membrane is an organ, a functional organ of the genome organism

All biological materials, of all forms, 'age'-change with time and with environments-circumstances. The list of possible age-related pore-leakiness effectors comprises a variety of 'aging' facors that continuously modify the functionality of the pore and modifies also the characteristics of the constituents of the inventory of materials within the outer cell membrane, the largest organ of the genome.

C. "Aging Not Approachable With Oversimplification". Aging Is A Closed Chain.

http://www.the-scientist.com/community/pos...0/122.page#1318

Aging genes age genomes age cells age cellular organisms and vice versa, the whole WHOLE being a construct of its constituents...


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Beyond Darwin 200Melatonin Switches On Mostly Intercell Maintenance
Wake up.
Re-think-plan-do-assess Epigenetics, Sleep And Melatonin works.


A. "Epigenetics reveals unexpected, and some identical, results"
http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id...ical%2C_results
One study finds tissue-specific methylation signatures in the genome; another a similarity between identical twins in DNA’s chemical tagging.

I humbly suggest : Re-think-plan-do-assess Epigenetics Works, founded on scientific conception that genes and genomes are organisms.


B. "Sleep, Melatonin, Cancers And Beyond Darwin 200"
http://www.the-scientist.com/community/pos...0/122.page#1412

I humbly suggest: Re-think-plan-do-assess works, founded on scientific conception that genes and genomes are organisms.


C. Apparent functional aspects of melatonin
http://cogweb.ucla.edu/ep/Neurology.html#Melatonin

Melatonin is a hormone secreted by the human pineal gland during night-time darkness, and it is now being marketed in the US as a nutritional supplement. The hormone is an indoleamine compound derived from the amino acid *tryptophan, with *serotonin as an intermediate precursor.

1) The most important role of melatonin in all species is to provide a hormonal signal of night-time darkness. The secretion of the hormone is tightly controlled by the *circadian pacemaker. 2) Melatonin is a phylogenetically ancient hormone, found even in some single-cell organisms and in some plants. 3) At the cellular level, melatonin receptors are members of the superfamily of *G protein-coupled receptors...Activation of these receptors inhibits *cyclic AMP production by the enzyme adenylyl cyclase.

cAMP (cyclic AMP) acts as an intracellular hormone (i.e., a chemical messenger). Cyclic AMP is derived from ATP in a reaction catalyzed by the enzyme adenylyl cyclase (also called adenyl cyclase and adenylate cyclase).

I humbly suggest: Melatonin, the phylogenetically ancient hormone, was evolved by the genome during the early single-cells eons when they evolved community life cultures and graduated from sunlight-only to metabolism-too energy production. Melatonin's role was to signal that the genes are asleep, their functional activities are shut off, and it is time for the security and maintenance crews to do their tasks, especially to clean up the intercell environment, for keeping the community of cells in proper state.


D. It all adds to:
Gene: a primal Earth's organism. (1st stratum organism)
Genome: a multigenes organism consisting of a cooperative commune of its member genes. (2nd stratum organism)

"Life's Manifest"
http://www.the-scientist.com/community/pos...st/112.page#578


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Prsdnt Obama Deludes Himself
Re The Required Economy Collapse Cure
It's Not Just The Economy, It's The Technology Culture That Collapsed


A. Brief notes re the apparent major factors of the collapse


1) Jan 6 2009

What Is "Scientific Progress"
What Is Needed To Advance Science
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...90&#entry392722


2) Dec 24 2008

For 2008 Sciencenews Of The Year YOK The World-Wide Economy Collapse
Money Printing Will NOT Cure The Technology Culture Greed Cancer
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...90&#entry390280


3) Dec 22 2008

Separate Technology From Science To Renovate Our Culture Including Economy
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...75&#entry390004


4) Nov 21 2008

Real And Virtual Energy, And Keynesian Salvation Prospects
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...45&#entry384952



B. There are no short-cuts for effecting a cure of the malignant world economy greed cancer.

From the above (4) ref:

"The present tone of the world's culture, and even ethics, including the banners of a variety of types and shades of greed, has been set by the 20th century Technology Culture. Its essence is the legitimacy and admiration of gaining capital via virtual activities, activities without or beyond the production of real assets, real life resources.

So the odds of the economy's salvation via Keynesian prospects are, in the long run, proportional to the odds that the culture of Earth's humanity will evolve towards ever more rational self-organization...which is, how unsurprisingly rational, the odds of every organism to survive..."

There are no short-cuts for effecting a cure of the malignant world economy greed cancer. The cure and recovery from this cancer entails a steady resolute cultural modification of 20th century personal and societal capitalistic greed values-ethics-morals. It entails public education to value and promote legitimacy and respect only of shares-stocks of products and processes that contribute to health, security, basic comfort, education and science, and to reject and shun products and processes involved in any form of luxuriousness.

And it entails a steady resolute continuous promotion of respect to non-luxurious life style and to pursuit by science, of convincing, ever closer approaching, approximate models of the real world including life and ourselves. This would be a return to and furthering of Enlightenment's inherent philosophy and attitudes in regards to individualism, universal human progress and, most important to humanity, the applications of reason.


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Musicality Of Newborns


A. Newborns pick up the beat

http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id...ick_up_the_beat
Electrical measurements of sleeping newborn babies’ brains indicate that the 2- to 3-day-olds automatically detect a regular beat in rhythmic sequences, possibly reflecting an early capacity for learning music.


B. Why Music Touches Us
Nov 11 2005, in biologicalEvolution forum

http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-P81pQcU1dLB..._Q--?cq=1&p=184

My conjecture about music 'touching-moving' us:

Music is a human cultural-artifactual elaboration of creatures' vocal communication which is an extension-elaboration of >24 wks-old in-womb fetus' and of newborns' intimate safe-coddle-sooth experiences. Both 'touch' and 'hear' senses are founded on mechanical sensing processes involving in-cell ions leakage forming electrical action potentials interpreted neurologically. I suggest-conjecture that the same neurological constellation may be handling both 'touch' and 'hear' senses, being of commom mechanisms and differing essentially only in switch-on modes, and that this evolves in all vocal creatures in conjunction with in-womb safe-feeling, and later with baby codling-handling and vocal soothing-communicating, and later also with intimate emotional implications. Hence music has 'engulfing-touching-emotional' connotation and individual's music orientation has childhood-ethnic rootings.

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Posted: Feb 5 2009, 12:41 PM


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Pavlov's Smile
Ameisen Olivier, Imagination Medicine,
Placebo, God-Religion, Virtual Reality
(recapitulation of some earlier posts)


A. Anti-Depressants, like

- Ameisen Olivier's "end of my addiction"

- http://www.completehealthdallas.com/Anti-D...tiveDallas.html

- http://www.answers.com/topic/serotonin


B. Imagination Medicine

http://www.sciencenews.org/view/feature/id...nation_Medicine
Brain imaging reveals the substance of placebos. Expectation alone triggers the same neural circuits and chemicals as real drugs.

"It all boils down to expectation. If you expect pain to diminish, the brain releases natural painkillers. If you expect pain to get worse, the brain shuts off the processes that provide pain relief. Somehow, anticipation trips the same neural wires as actual treatment does.

Scientists are using imaging techniques to probe brains on placebos and watch the placebo effect in real time. Such studies show, for example, that the pleasure chemical dopamine and the brain’s natural painkillers, opioids, work oppositely depending on whether people expect pain to get better or worse. Other research shows that placebos can reduce anxiety."


C. Placebos: some background info

http://www.cerebromente.org.br/n09/mente/pavlov_i.htm
http://www.cerebromente.org.br/n09/mente/placebo1_i.htm
http://thjuland.tripod.com/placebos.html

The concept of a placebo comes from medieval times, when professional mourners were paid to stay by the bedside of. deceased person, reciting a psalm beginning "Placebo Domino..." or "I shall please the Lord." "Placebo" gradually became the word used for the paid mourner, whose grief was, in fact, false.


D. Life's Manifest

http://www.the-scientist.com/community/pos...st/112.page#578

Genes are the primal, 1st stratum, Earth's organism and genomes are 2nd stratum organisms,
multigenes consisting of cooperative communes of their member genes.

Life is a real virtual affair that pops in and out of existence in its matrix, which is the energy constrained in Earth's biosphere.


E. On Science and Religion

"Evolutionary Biology Of Culture And Religion"
http://www.the-scientist.com/community/pos...20/122.page#492

The concept “God” is a human virtual reality artifact, experienced only through sensory stimuli. Preoccupation with god-religious matters within a scientific frameworks contributes to corrosion and corruption of science and scientism by manifesting or implying acceptance of virtual reality as reality.

Everything is discussable scientifically. No limit. Including virtual matters and affairs. But for a scientific discussion the framework must be clearly defined. The totality of subjects that come under the classification "virtual" are not an exception. You can include in the discussion Pavlov and the modes and manners of exploiting virtuality in any area and towards any end.


F. So why Pavlov smiled in 2008?

Pavlov demonstrated effecting placebo phenomena in multicelled organisms by manipulation of their drives-reactions. Now placebo and imagination phenomena are demonstrated also in the smaller organisms, in the genes and genomes of multicelled organisms, in our primal first stratum and 2nd stratum base organisms. A very good reason to smile.

Now an interesting chain is exposed to our view, the Genes-Virtual Reality Chain, a most intriguing cultural evolution chain extending from the genesis of our genes to nowadays, throughout life, a virtual reality existence, and by virtual reality phenomena, exploitations and manipulations.


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Multicells-Life Date Pushed Back,
But With Confused Terminology


A. From "Animal ancestors may have survived ‘snowball Earth’"
http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id..._Earth%E2%80%99
Chemical fossils in Precambrian sedimentary rock push back the first date for animal life.

1) Finding a molecule that was made by an organism, means that the biosynthetic ability to make that molecule must have evolved earlier than the Cambrian period, which extended 544 to 500 million years ago with marine invertebrates. Biosynthetic ability had to be around by at least 635 million years ago and, the researchers say, maybe as early as 751 million years ago.

2) There’s evidence of eukaryotic life, organisms with DNA sequestered in a protective nucleus, from roughly 1.9 billion years ago, but proper multicellular animals don’t appear on the scene until much later.


B. Confused terminology

The report mostly and clearly attributes ONLY to multicells organisms the terms animal ancestors, animal life, organism, biosynthetic ability. Yet it terms also an 'organism' a maybe, probable, 1.9 billion yrs old 'eukaryotic life', even if implying that it might have not been 'proper multicellular animals'.


C. Suggested clarification of scenario and terminology

From "Life's Manifest"
http://www.the-scientist.com/community/pos...st/112.page#578

- First were independent individual genes, Earth's primal organisms.
- Genes aggregated cooperatively into genomes, multigenes organisms, with genomes' organs.
- Simultaneously or consequently genomes evolved protective and functional membranes, organs.
- Then followed cellular organisms, with a variety of outer-cell membrane shapes and functionalities.
- Cellular organisms (3rd stratum organism): mono- or multi-celled earth organisms.

Since evolution is definitely driven by culture, the evolution of multicelled organisms was preceded by evolution of cooperative community life culture of the monocelled organisms. Most presently observed biological processes and internal organs in multicelled organisms have originated and evolved by and during the evolution of the cooperative community life culture of the monocelled organisms...


Suggesting,

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Posted: Feb 11 2009, 04:47 PM


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Peer Review In Science, Whereto?


A. "Google peer review"
http://www.the-scientist.com/community/pos...t/380.page#1497

Seeks comments on "crowd-sourcing the peer review process".


B. Enhancing Peer Review (NIH/OD)
Sent:Jan 03, 2009
To: henisdov
Subject:Peer Review And Innovation

Dear Dov Henis,

Thank you for your input. Please be aware that a significant part of
the process to Enhance Peer Review is "Continuous Review of Peer
Review." We will keep your comments under consideration.

The Enhancing Peer Review Team
http://enhancing-peer-review.nih.gov
"...fund the best science, by the best scientists, with the least amount
of administrative burden."


C. From earlier postings of mine:

"Peer Review" is, factually, a tool of a "Subversive Activities Control Board", a tool of the Science Establishment.

The most revolting corrupt aspect of peer review in science is its exploitation by the Science Establishment to tightly clamp its political and financial omni-everything power, rule, control and censorship, including stifling of any shred of scientific innovation not originated or not publicized via The Establishment's network.

The corruption is not inherent in the tool, but in the nature of the Science Establishment and in the characteristics of its obsequious functionaries.

"Implications Of Science And Technology Evolution"
http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-P81pQcU1dLB..._Q--?cq=1&p=419

The AAAS and its affiliates and equivalent organizations, i.e. all the Science Establishment Guilds, loudly and pseudoscientifically promote and "profoundly respect" the "spiritual religious domain" as a real domain, a domain separate from the real science domain. They do this both because, unbelievably, they actually believe it and as a politically powerful tool in promoting towards themselves public esteem-acceptance and state-public financial support.

The peer review process is a tool of the Establishment. As long as the Science Establishment Guilds are what they now are and as long as they enjoy the public and state esteem they now have, and as long as Science and Technologhy are not seperated from each other conceptually and administratively but considered and handled as one faculty, the corruption of science cannot and will not be overcome. These 21st century technology culture aspects have been well inscribed and entrenched by Science's Big Brothers in the minds and conceptions of the public.


D. The lesson of the wikipedia-encyclopedia's "public-sourcing" product,

and of additional currently on-line "outside-Establishment-sourcing" science publishing start-ups is discouraging. IMO the GPeerReview is destined to end up similarly, i.e. as a cheaper, more available, second-hand product proudly claimed to be produced with the Establishment's rules-regulations-considerations even if "made in China" for faster and cheaper delivery and for more wide-spread availability.

Thus science publishing delivery will become faster and cheaper but the products will be made and cleared with today's combination of writing rules-regulations and peer-review ecclestiasticism that have been so deeply inscribed in the flock of the 21st century Science Establishment Church.


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Science, AAAS, Sacred Nature, Virtual Reality
Survival Requires Sacramentalism, Not Rationalism
Pseudoprofound Gibberish


A. Biologist discusses sacred nature of sustainability
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/200...s-bds021109.php


B. From my earlier postings:

- It's The AAAS That Promotes Religion In Science And In Law
The AAAS and its affiliates and equivalent organizations, i.e. all the Science Establishment Guilds, loudly and pseudoscientifically promote and "profoundly respect" the "spiritual religious domain" as A REAL domain, a domain separate from the REAL, science, domain. They do this both because, unbelievably, they actually believe it and as a politically powerful tool in promoting their power and state-public support.

- On Science and Religion
"Evolutionary Biology Of Culture And Religion"
http://www.the-scientist.com/community/pos...20/122.page#492

Religion is a human virtual reality artifact, experienced only through sensory stimuli. Preoccupation with religious matters within a scientific frameworks contributes to corrosion and corruption of science and scientism by manifesting or implying acceptance of virtual reality as reality.
Everything is discussable scientifically. No limit. Including virtual matters and affairs. But for a scientific discussion the framework must be clearly defined. The totality of subjects that come under the classification "virtual" are not an exception. You can include in the discussion Pavlov and the modes and manners of exploiting virtuality in any area and towards any end.

- Why Pavlov smiled in 2008

Pavlov demonstrated effecting placebo phenomena in multicelled organisms by manipulation of their drives-reactions. Now placebo and imagination phenomena are demonstrated also in life's base organisms, in the genes and genomes of multicelled organisms, in our primal first stratum and 2nd stratum base organisms. A very good reason to smile.

Now an interesting chain is exposed to our view, the Genes-Virtual Reality Chain, a most intriguing Cultural Evolution Chain extending from the Genesis of genes to nowadays organisms' cultures, throughout life, which is a virtual reality existence, the cultures are evolving by virtual reality phenomena, exploitations and manipulations.


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More Corruption Of Science By AAAS
Via "New Masters of Science"


I. AAAS: The New Masters of Science
http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id...ers_of_Science_
A new master's degree program is emerging that is creating "a new type of scientist" and a new professional class.


II. From "Societal Implications Of Science And Technology Evolution"
http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-P81pQcU1dLB..._Q--?cq=1&p=419
Science And Technology Evolution Since The 1920s, And Its Societal-Social Implications

I posit that the nature of the evolution of science and technology since the 1920s has been the most significant molding factor of the present characteristics of our society, and that it is vitally important for charting the future course of our society to learn and understand this evolution.

A. Science and technology are clearly and distinctly two separate faculties, separate branches of learning and teaching. Yet since the 1920s the titles of these different faculties appear inseperably jointly everywhere.

B. Why is it that since the 1920s technology has been evolving dynamically whereas basic, non-applied, science has been progressing - in my opinion - at ever decreasing rate?

C. And what have been and what are the societal-social implications of the format of this evolution and of the present state of science and technology?

D. Definitions of terms for the subject of this thread:

- Science: state of knowledge attained by systematized thinking, studies and/or tests through established scientific methods.

- Technology: capability of and manner of practical application of knowledge.


III. It appears that the mundane term "technician of science" is a threat to the AAAS

Looks like the AAAS resorts to a virual-reality public-relations manipulation, to "Masters of Science" in lieu of the obviously factual plain and simple "technician of science", in order to allay apprehension that "technician of science" might have deleterious effects on its size and esteem and public impact...

Hypocrisy, hypocrisy...

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For Brains, Almost Counts
Foresaw Pavlov


A. For gamblers' brains, almost counts
http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id..._almost_counts_
In an experiment mimicking slot machines, people’s brains reacted similarly to almost winning as to winning, possibly explaining why gambling can be addictive.


B. From :Pavlov's Smile
http://www.the-scientist.com/community/pos...0/122.page#1475

So why Pavlov smiled in 2008?

Pavlov demonstrated effecting placebo phenomena in multicelled organisms by manipulation of their drives-reactions. Now placebo and imagination phenomena are demonstrated also in the smaller organisms, in the genes and genomes of multicelled organisms, in our primal first stratum and 2nd stratum base organisms. A very good reason to smile.

Look at "Life's Manifest" and at "EVOLUTION Beyond Darwin 200" and reflect about them...

Now an interesting chain is exposed to our view, the Genes-Virtual Reality Chain, a most intriguing cultural evolution chain extending from the genesis of our genes to nowadays, throughout life, which is a virtual reality existence, and by virtual reality phenomena, exploitations and manipulations.


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Life's Manifest
http://www.the-scientist.com/community/pos...st/112.page#578

EVOLUTION Beyond Darwin 200
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...05&#entry396201
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Should Science Be Evangelized
Maybe Scientists Should Propagandize As Religionists Do


A. Maybe Scientists should propagandize as religionists do
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...=0&#entry401928


B. For the AAAS science is a companion religion to "spiritual" personal religions

For the AAAS, the organization and Establishment Guild of our "scientists" (whatever this term means), for many many years science has been a religion, too, a "universal religion" besides and in addition to the "spiritual" personal religions.

The AAAS apparently considers that thus having two religions is in accordance with one of the Merriam-Webster (1827) definitions of rationalism, i.e.: "reliance on reason as the basis for establishment of religious truth". (wondering what was "religious truth" when this definition was drawn up, before understanding that religious truth is a virtual reality affair?)

But by adopting this meaning of rationalism AAAS disregards the other meanings of rationalim:

- "a theory that reason is in itself a source of knowledge superior to and independent of sense perceptions". (an 1827 unwitting reference to virtual reality...)

- "a view that reason and experience rather than the nonrational are the fundamental criteria in assessing and solution of problems"


C. So, should science be evangelized?

So why, then, should'nt the AAAS take one step further and embark on explicit evangelizing of science as "the basis for religious truth" in accordance with its hitherto implied-only tenet?

This would be an interesting field trial project in our present virtual reality 21st century technology culture concurrent with the present struggle to survive the collapsed virtual reality basis of this culture's economic tenets.


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Life's Manifest
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Unexpected Scientific Rationale
More On The 2009 Life Sciences March


A. "Jumping genes provide unexpected diversity"
http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id...ected_diversity
Mobile DNA elements have stuffed and shrunk the human genome, a comparison of two genomes reveal


B. Pearls of new scientific insights

- "Mobile DNA elements help shape human genomes"
- "Mobile pieces of DNA may have given humans a jump-start on evolution, a new study reveals"
- "... genes have been actively shaping human and other primate evolution"

Unbelievable indeed! Exciting unexpected new scientific insights!


C. Common current misconception...

- "Jumping genes, pieces of DNA that replicate and insert themselves into a host’s genome..."

Whereas genes are organisms, originally independent organisms that evolution rendered capable of surviving only interdependently as functional members of cooperative gene communes, i.e. genomes.


D. The "researchers" compared TWO genomes,

one was the genome of a specific person, J.C. Venter, and the other was the genome "assembled" by Venter's Human Genome Project.

Compared with the "assembled" genome, in the genome of the specific person they found 706 places into which "transposable elements had stuffed extra DNA" while in the stuffing process recombinations between the mobile elements cut 140 chunks out.

In view of this they state: "The finding indicates that transposable elements are unexpectedly potent contributors to human genetic diversity..." and “We’re finding more and more variability than we would have predicted”...

Brilliant and exciting indeed...Life Science Marches On!


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Pointless Experiment
More Superfluous Research


A. From "Hitting the redo button on evolution"
http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id...on_on_evolution
Scientists are experimenting with bacteria to see if evolution plays out the same way every time.

Some "scientists" think that in a redo of evolution things would turn out basically a repeat, with maybe some different details. Others don’t agree. They think that in a redo a small change somewhere along the line could produce very big changes later.

The point of this "experiment" was to settle the 'debate', "to see if evolution plays out the same way every time".


B. The debate subject is futile, pointless, and so is the experiment,

since it is plainly obvious that:

- any redo of any evolution scenario, especially in bio systems, cannot ever be exact. This is plainly obvious and does not need elaboration.

- it is impossible to quantify comparative changes between bio evolution redo's , nor to guesstimate what 'later' changes may be.


C. Such pointless superfluous doings do not contribute anything to comprehension of evolution

I have been presenting evidence for years that adaptation, i.e. culture, is the driver of evolution of all life including human and that genetic evolution, the primal genes' functional modifications, expressions, are generally not random constitutional phenomena but occur in biased courses set-directed by the cultural feedback of the parent multicell organism ( or the monocells community ) to the membership of their genome.


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Life's Manifest
http://www.the-scientist.com/community/pos...st/112.page#578

EVOLUTION Beyond Darwin 200
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...05&#entry396201
http://www.the-scientist.com/community/pos...0/122.page#1407
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TracerTong
Posted: Feb 25 2009, 09:55 PM


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QUOTE (HenisDov @ May 18 2007, 08:05 AM)
A. If one accepts, intuitively and logically, Pasteur's observation .... We are just beginning to comprehend the nature of the raw material called Life and that the purpose of OUR life is ours to choose and develop and follow.


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Shouldn't it be repeatable then? Wouldn't scientists have already been able to repeat it? What about spiritual happenings? Is it logical to assume only natural?

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QUOTE (TracerTong @ Feb 25 2009, 09:55 PM)
Shouldn't it be repeatable then? Wouldn't scientists have already been able to repeat it? What about spiritual happenings? Is it logical to assume only natural?

Spiritual happenings have not been repeatable.
People have tried.

It is necessary to accept only the repeatable if you want to stick with reality.


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