Colloidal silver, Full story at http://www.physorg.com/news63004522.html

http://www.physorg.com/news63004522.html

Sounds just like Colloidal silver?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colloidal_silver
http://www.google.com/search?q=make+colloidal+silver

"One of the problems, however, is in getting assemblies of nanoparticles of the same size into the right environment, for example on the surface of a wound dressing or in a colloidal suspension that can either be turned into an aerosol or injected into the body.

“The medical studies carried out so far acknowledge that in existing commercially available nanoparticle suspensions, only 1% of the material consists of nanoparticles of the right size."
(article)


The focus here seems to be,in the exact size of these particles, where I believe they are indicating that colloidal silvers are not minute enough to be as effective as the more minute healers, they want injectible nano-silver and so forth. (it appears to me)

This post has been edited by tikay on Apr 5 2007, 07:58 PM

Do they just use electronic methods still, to make colloidil silver? Or is there a new method out?

The colloidal silver can be prepared most easily just be chemical methods, i.e. by careful precipitation (reduction) of the silver from the polymer solution of silver salts.

According to numerous sites that claim to have measured the particle size of electronic creation of Ionic-Colloidal Silver, they claim particle sizes created are of 0.005 to 0.015 microns (5-15 nm) in diameter as measured by Scanning Electron Microscope. Admittedly, this range includes particles larger than the sub-10nm size claimed to be most effective by the article. When you look at the cost of home-brewing your own CS at less than $0.10 / month and creating solutions that do, in fact, have possibly 1/2 the particles of the recommended diameters "to enter cells and disrupt them", this could be a revolutionary discovery and the start of a new home health maintenance lifestyle.

It also appears that the experts are saying that binding sites on viruses have a particular size that a specific particle size is required to bind to. If that varies from virus to virus, then using a solution of mixed size particles could be used as a preventative and broader range anti-viral rather than trying to create homogeneous solution that would be specific to an individual virus. Plus, it does seem to be problematic and probably very expensive to create this homogeneous singular particle size solution. Sure, it's fun, exciting, satisfying, and mentally stimulating to do so but if all that does is take lots of time, money, and creates a longer delay in actually releasing a broad spectrum anti-viral to people suffering from potentially lethal viral infections, is it the best use of resources to completely over engineer this simple silver solution rather than using what is simple, quick, and inexpensive to create?

If they really want homogeneous sized particle solutions, aren't there nanometer filters that could be used to sieve the proper sized particles from solutions created for pennies per liter? A quick Internet search shows filtration down to 20 nm in size so there's probably smaller filtration systems available.

C'mon! This is medical science, not rocket science!

I've collected some links about Colloidal silver here.

http://robert-beck.go-here.nl/colloidal-silver

enjoy

I've had a cough left-over from a cold that lasted three weeks, and I just finished a course of antibiotics that didn't quite cure the cough. I just got some colloidal silver and used it.

I'll let you know how it works.

Update:

I tried the colloidal silver, inhaling the spray like it was an inhaler, most of the spray just hit the back of my throat but some did seem to make it into my lungs.

I stopped coughing almost immediately. I was astounded, I wasn't expecting anything dramatic, I've had this &%$@ing cough for over three weeks, and suddenly it was *gone*!

I coughed a couple times later that night, mainly clearing my throat, and a couple more times today, but I'm really amazed that it worked as well as it did and as quickly as it did.

I'm now trying it (off-label) for a chronic blepharitis problem I've had for nearly two years, having gone to a couple different doctors a few different times, doing the nightly treatment for months (each course lasts 6 weeks), and it always comes back. I'll let you know how it works.

This post has been edited by wcelliott on May 24 2007, 02:20 AM

Just another update.

My initial enthusiasm for colloidal silver is now tempered somewhat, after impressive initial "knockdown" of various chronic infections, none of them have cleared completely.

On the other hand, I tested the "antimicrobial" properties of this stuff yesterday, using it instead of underarm deodorant, just to see what would happen. Despite my doing some housework and having a cheeseburger with grilled onions for lunch, as of this morning, I still had no B.O. So that much seems to work, at least.

I'm still a believer in this stuff, I'm just not as impressed as I was initially.

Thank you Wcelliott for your priceless research.

<offtopic>I'm convinced this is just the tip of the iceberg. If something like this can just disappear after using it for thousands of years. Then we can only guess what else was hidden by this method? Like we have MRI today. But in 1930 Royal R Rife used that to destroy diseases not just to look at them.[1] It's strange how aggressive people can get when this topic comes up. I'm some what reluctant to talk about any of it. My imagination says there is nothing wrong with Dr. Rife's work. It almost makes to much sense?</offtopic>

Maybe you could make a small web page about the nano silver/colloids topic Wcelliott?

I can help if you want.

Hi wcelliott, it was interesting reading about you experiences. Still i think you have to take care when applying this substance, it can lead to poisoning if taken in to large quantities.

http://www.argyria.info

The danger of colloids is taken far out of proportion, apart from skin color changes when taking an over dosage there are no negative health effects. Of course anything taken in large dosage may eventually be bad for you.

The wine industry uses it to clean bottles, vegetables stay fresh longer when they spay colloids on them. It's not reasonable to assume they would put poison in our food.

Maybe blue is our natural color?

This post has been edited by gaby de wilde on Jun 30 2007, 07:15 PM

Why i wrote it was because i myself had asked about it somewhat earlier. " Too much of anything is not a good thing." ( By Palpatane. )

http://www.billingsgazette.com/rednews/200...idate_large.inc

If you want the thread it's
' http://forum.physorg.com/index.php?showtopic=12793 '

This post has been edited by yor_on on Jun 30 2007, 09:31 PM

I've seen him before. It has to be fabricated propaganda. It makes no sense if there are only 2 official cases for NR 3 to be a public figure who explains enough about the recipe to scare people? Sure! Anyway, we can see he is quite healthy still.

What I understand from it is that you need huge sized colloids and lots of them to get the large crystals in sun exposed areas of the skin.

<offtopic> I just found this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acvH3EY1Y_o



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Update on my experiences with Colloidal Silver:

The sinus infection seems to be all-but cleared up.

I still have a bit of blepharitis, but it's at the same (minor) level that it was when I was using the antibiotic ointment that was prescribed for the condition, which itself required *six weeks* of treatment for a single course, and required two refills. This was essentially a petroleum jelly-based goo that I had to apply to my eyelids every night before bed, which blurred my vision (from the oily goo covering my corneas) and was hard to wash off in the morning. The Colloidal Silver seems to work as well, and just takes a couple spritzes in each eye, no problems associated with oily goo in my eyes.

I can't remember if I mentioned it, but I did try it as underarm deodorant, and it worked all day.

I'm thinking this is a good find, and I recommend it to my friends.

While I'm making recommendations, I strongly suggest that everyone take Vitamin D supplements, at least 1000IU/day, as it's been found by mainstream medical researchers to prevent many kinds of cancer. It isn't even recognized as such by the Health Food Store types yet, most of the hippies working there don't even know where it is on their shelves, but it's cheap and has no side effects, other than preventing various common types of cancer. IMO, finding something that *prevents* cancer is even better than finding something that *cures* cancer.