Attack here, c'mon

Here, this ought to be fun.

Consider the following analogy.

If you went down the street and saw a quarter on the sidewalk, you would think naturally, "someone dropped a quarter." If you went down the street and saw a handful of quarters on the sidewalk, you would think, "Someone had a big hole in their pockets, or dropped a roll of quarters." But if you went down the street and saw one hundred quarters on the sidewalk and they were all carefully balanced precariously on their edges, you would have to think somebody did this deliberately. The Universe as we know it, is that carefully balanced. This theory is known as the Strong Anthropic Principle. The only possibility other than this Universe was created, is there are so many universes that the equivalent of one hundred quarters falling out of someone's pocket and ALL of them ending up balanced on their edges occurred, completely by random chance. This theory is known as the, "Weak Anthropic Principle." So if you are a rational thinker here are your only two choices. Either this Universe was created , or that there are multitudes of Universes.

What do you think?? Yeah, YOU!!

This post has been edited by thinkbig! on Mar 24 2007, 08:54 PM

I just stumbled upon this and found it interesting. This is just to start friendly discussion. NOT TO PROVE EITHER SIDE. We all know where that gets us. Debate, is good, arguing is not. GO.

This post has been edited by thinkbig! on Mar 24 2007, 08:58 PM

THE MULTIPLE UNIVERSE CONCEPT IS FOR ATHEISTS. AFTER ALL IF THERE IS NOTHING BIGGER TO PUT THE UNIVERSE INTO ALL THAT IS LEFT IS THIS ONE UNIVERSE THAT HAD TO BE CREATED BY GOD. THE SUPERVERSE IS THE THING THE ATHEISTS USE TO FIT THE UNIVERSE INTO WITHOUT THE NECESSITY OF THERE BEING A GOD.

WHAT IS THE MEANING OF THIS UNIVERSE?

US.

MITCH RAEMSCH -- LIGHT FALL --

Just wanted to say that the lack of Anger and Meanness is much appreciated.

How would you tell where one Universe begins and the other ends?

Arthur

It's just like everything else. You don't know until you find out. So, if there is a way to know that, it's a secret for now. Until someone figures it out.

thinkbig!

a rational thinker would not exclude the possibility that a multitude of universes were part of the creation, or that what we experience as the universe is actually the possibility, no matter how unlikely, that a 100 dropped quarters will all land on their side.

thinkbig! Some say there could have been a million failed universes before this when everything was right so it survived. Regardless, gravity pulls things down, photons travel at C, etc. If you drop a quarter, it can land heads or tails, or on it's side. It does not suddenly turn into a flower and bloom. A universe might just be the way forces naturally work.

Consider the analogy : A magician waves his arms, says the magic word and from nothing, everything appears. How can this be done? Because people who believe in it say it can. But who made the magician? His believers say he was always there. Evidence they have none. So why not the universe was always there and get rid of this impossible magician?

This post has been edited by kaneda on Mar 25 2007, 04:10 PM

I've always found this an interesting take on the matter.

Kaeroll

I dropped a glass on a piece of pavement, and then looked at the pieces. After a bit, I started to notice a pattern between the pieces, right angles seemed to be non-existant, obtuse angels were more common in the larger pieces, etc.

If you examine a process long enough, you can usually find a pattern.

Of course, this lead me to believe that those pieces of glass were put there on purpose and that their patterns were arranged to show me that some intelligent designer broke the pieces merely to prove his existence.

Or not. Maybe the patterns I was seeing was merely an intelligent mind examining the results of a natural process.

This post has been edited by El_Machinae on Mar 26 2007, 01:47 PM