Twin Paradox Resolved, Full story at http://www.physorg.com/news90697187.html

quantum motion

Richard Feynman said " Everything giggles."

They would age the same.

This post has been edited by Nick on Feb 20 2007, 08:43 PM

Light moves through the absolute rest frame. Its clock is the fastest.

MITCH RAEMSCH -- LIGHT FELL --

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Does this mean that relativity is dead?

If the relative motion of two objects A and B is determined by their distance from C, as the distance to C moves to infinity the relative motion approaches 0.

Now, if A and B are in a circular orbit around point C, are A and B relatively fixed even though they are moving through spacetime independently? What does that imply?

Sounds goofy, but then goofy is sometimes revolutionary (pun intended.)

I'M SPARTACUS!!

Or this or this or this ???

I would bet my money on this.

Pheeew, thanks for clearing up the matter.

DOES THE STATION COME TO THE TRAIN?

DOES THE STATION MOVE THROUGH SPACE TO GET ANY CLOSER TO THE TRAIN?

NO. RELATIVITY IS GONE.

MITCH RAEMSCH -- LIGHT FELL --

How about this. Forget twins.

Take a rotating body, a disk that is made out of a material with a shelf life of 1 year.

The disk rotates 68% the speed of light.

Eventually, the center, which is at rest, begins to crumble away sooner than the outer edge, which is "aging" more slowly.

How does this affect stars?

Imagine two twins.

One gets hit on the head with a baseball bat and dies.

Now one is alive, and the other is dead.

Yet they are twins!?!

Resolve that.

Hey Nick at page two ;) you wrote that if you flew fast enough you could see time slow down :)

That's news to me,
Hope you can prove it, as far as i know whatever 'state' you're in, time for you will flow at the same rate, that doesn't mean that you wont see relativistic phenomena like light behaving strange, collecting in the center instead of spread out etc Just to strech my neck out more i will claim that the same goes for falling past the event horizon.

The ''real' difference' as far as i know will only appear when comparing with an earlier state of reference, if you get my relativistic drift.

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This post has been edited by yor_on on Feb 20 2007, 10:57 PM

If this is correct, i am confused. You cant simply see the velocity of one twin as minus the velocity of the other and from that draw the conclusion that relative to each other they experience the same thing, since only one of them experiences acceleration: the one in the spaceship. He has to slow down and get back to his brother to compare clocks doesn't he? There was never a paradox to start with.

HOW FAST CAN STARS SPIN?

This is one of those lame things that's been around and resolved for almost as long as it has existed. The twin "paradox" has never been a true paradox since the twin traveling at .86c has to accelerate. That is, they are not bound by a mutual frame of reference due to the physical impossibility of instant acceleration. By enacting or being bound by the force of his acceleration, the paradox no longer exists.
One twin experiences acceleration which precludes a mutually shared perception, which means the twin in the starship stays younger and the one on earth gets older.

Guest_Sean is correct. What most people don't understand is that while uniform velocity and its time dilation effects depend on perspective, acceleration is absolute and permanently alters the clock rate. It is acceleration that makes something age slower. Clocks on earth tick slower than clocks in space due to a stronger gravity field on earth, and gravity is equivalent to acceleration. The Twin Paradox only appears a paradox if you try to use Special Relativity to analyze a General Relativistic phenomenon.