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Imagination
Posted: Nov 26 2006, 04:05 AM


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More than Likely, if there were a Coming of the Messiah, He would show up at that moment in time of the most critical need.

And its true, he would show up to defend all people from those who would deceive you into believing a false politic and history.
And Israel will be threatened by these deceivers, and the Messiah will try to save the Israelites. And all of us are Israelites, because we are one people under G-d.

There is one Language that begot all languages, all maths, all what we call science.
Hebrew is that one of ONE's, and all of this planets people are of Hebrew.
From one came the many. Everyone is your brother.

Where will the Messiah show.
He will not do any magic tricks. There is no trick, only an attempt at salvation.

Jesus Christ died at age 33. The Messiah will have the number 358 as predicted in the Torah's Zohar inner text.
Judisim Bar Mitvah is 13, which is the age of maturity and knowledge.
Christianity predicts Revelations 13....Armeggedon.

I know there is someone on this board who knows what the 358 references to.

Its all in the thread on Time in Special Relativity.

This is a great website, everyone looking for the truth, the unity.
Where would the Messiah show himself?
Where would the Messengers betrayer show themself?

G-d speaks thru everyone of us, we are all from One.

MY MESSAGE IS TO SAVE ALL OF US, WHAT WILL BE YOUR MESSAGE?
I'VE NO CHILDREN, MANY OF YOU DO, DO IT FOR THEM, DO IT FOR THE FUTURE


I beg you please listen. There is no magic trick, only the word of truth.

*We sense a 'Messiah Complex' coming from me. Then decide on the message.

I'm well aware what happens to this Messenger, but you cannot stop his Message.

If you want to know the Deceivers, read the book Abe Foxman says is a lie, and learn how fascists play us all against each other.
Learn who was behind J.F.K.'s murder.
'The Secret War Against the Jews', by John Loftus






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kaneda
Posted: Nov 27 2006, 04:33 PM


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Imagination. There have been untold wars and disasters with many billions suffering and dying in the last two thousand years and no Messiah has helped us. 7,000,000 of god's chosen people were butchered sixty years ago and god did.....nothing! Anyone would think that he doesn't exist.

As to those nice Jewish people:


http://www.masada2000.org/


http://www.masada2000.org/islam.html



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Insyght
Posted: Nov 27 2006, 05:57 PM


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The messiah will not show up at a time of need. He will show up to execute judgment at a God chosen time. This time will turn into a time of need and great calamity.

As Kaneda correctly points out, many believers have fallen. Where was God in that time of need?

People continue to miss the point. So here it is very simply:

We are warned of destruction. We are told why it is coming. We are not told when because we have to want to be on God's side. When the destruction is complete, warfare will end, human ruler ships will end and peace will pro vale.

In case this is not understood, here, ill illustrate it.

You own a 20 story apartment building with 1000 apartments. You give out the apartments for FREE, you are a philantrophist. 95% of the tenants abuse your property, insult you as they come and go each day. You warn them and appeal to them. In the mean time you try your best to treat the "good tenants" well who respect you.

You wish that some of the thankless tenants would start to respect you, so you can continue to help them.

Eventually you say "thats it". You embark on a campaign to evict them all, leaving only the respectful ones.

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Posted: Nov 28 2006, 06:22 AM


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QUOTE (Insyght @ Nov 27 2006, 05:57 PM)
Eventually you say "thats it". You embark on a campaign to evict them all, leaving only the respectful ones.

So your "simple" point is that god lacks patience?

So much for omniforgiving.

What? He just didn't respect those people's will? I thought we're supposed to have free will? Doesn't that include the "will" to decide that we don't like his rental agreement? And why didn't he know in advance that so many people would be late with their payments?

So much for omnipotence.


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Imagination
Posted: Nov 28 2006, 07:17 AM


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QUOTE (kaneda @ Nov 27 2006, 04:33 PM)
Imagination. There have been untold wars and disasters with many billions suffering and dying in the last two thousand years and no Messiah has helped us. 7,000,000 of god's chosen people were butchered sixty years ago and god did.....nothing! Anyone would think that he doesn't exist.

'As to those nice Jewish people':


http://www.masada2000.org/


http://www.masada2000.org/islam.html

I'm not clicking your links because of the way you prefaced(in italics).

Do what you want, take the one you can't measure in your microscopes out of the equation, what do you have now? Same circumstances facing mankind and the air, sea, and land. You can't escape that part.

Convergence is real, it parallels something within physics itself(anti-particle i believe).
I never believed any of the things people considered of the paranormal or the mystical variety, but I am now living it in different moments.
If you know of the dream world, and how A-Temporal fits right in, all things resolve the duality of 'being' when you're in that zone, and Time is like Einstein spoke of, but even more so;; you can be one moment ahead of it, and then you have 'vision'. You also become one with the past.

No time to play games, I am here as a clear warning.
If you don't know it, I will repeat it then, the Golden Ratio is the Mind of G-d, and G-d teaches one thing only....Balance Balance Balance.
Its all about you. Truth in Beauty, Truth in Symmetry, Symmetry = Balance.
The Sun is a perfect expression of this with its E.M.W. Spectrum. Now that you might relate to.


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kaneda
Posted: Nov 28 2006, 05:13 PM


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Insyght. Wrong. Your god/landlord set about murdering the tenants of the apartment block. He told them that they should kill disobedient children and people who worked on Sundays. He also threatened them telling them if they did not do what he wanted, then they would burn in hell forever. He is not a nice person.


He is not there either. There has been no evidence of this landlord. No one has ever seen him and there are only false stories about him so why should anyone take any notice?


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kaneda
Posted: Nov 28 2006, 05:20 PM


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Imagination. You did not use my links because you know they prove you wrong.

I don't know what else you are talking about. It does not make sense.

As to the Sun, it is a mass controlled nuclear explosion and is dying but it just takes a lot longer to die than us. It has many instabilities so runs hot and cold, giving us heat and ice ages. It also pumps out radiation which would kill us if it were not for the protective ozone layer.


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Posted: Nov 28 2006, 07:44 PM


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So your "simple" point is that god lacks patience?

So much for omniforgiving.


Omniforgiving? What is that!? LOL ... Once someone mentioned she was "always saved". So I asked her: "Supposed you wanted that car and you went over there, took out a gun and shot the owner to get it, do you feel that you would still be 'always saved' in God's sight" ... To my disbelief, she said "Yes". I rest my case. If anyone cannot see why God cannot be Omniforgiving, then I will spend no more time discussing it.

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Insyght. Wrong. Your god/landlord set about murdering the tenants of the apartment block.


Justice needs administering. God could let us do it our selves, which is what the majority of ppl do. I swipe your car, you catch up with me, get the car back and give me a good ol beating to teach me a lesson. But that does not fix things. God tells us not to revenge. He tells us that he will be the avenger. One reason is that you might catch up to me to administer revenge and then I pull out a gun and shoot you dead. So much for justice.

When a man loses his family in murder as an extreme example, where will justice come from?

Justice must be administered.

I can almost see your reply to this being written - but ill let you write it anyways...

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There has been no evidence of this landlord. No one has ever seen him and there are only false stories about him so why should anyone take any notice?


Because his words are posted as signs all over the buildings notice boards... Problem is, many people doubt they are his. They think the letters are written by some of the victims in the building, attempting to dampen the flow of persecution and such they are receiving for trying to abide by the old mans wishes.

Remember gentlemen and ladies, it's an illustration...

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Doesn't that include the "will" to decide that we don't like his rental agreement? And why didn't he know in advance that so many people would be late with their payments?

So much for omnipotence.


Here we go with the Omni- again. Does God know all? No. Shocked?

How can he know whether you are going to choose to obey him? Didn't Christ die as a sacrifice for ALL? Wouldn't that therefore be a lie if God knew in advance who was not going to be under that provision?

Miss read my post. There is no rent, no rental agreement. You simply inhabit. Respect would be nice to the owner.

All of these discussion stem from the EXALTED state of man. I live in Canada as an example. I have free will. Do it? in a relative sense, yet I do. But when I break the Canadian law, my free will ends and I then become punishable. I made the choice to break the law right? So yes, I do have free will. I committed the act KNOWING that if found out, I would be in trouble. I pay the consequences. The same is true if I do not KNOW the law. That does not exempt me from punishment does it? "I did not know I could not park here ... boo hoo hoo"... "Oh really? thats okay, we will let you off then"... No, does not happen.

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Posted: Nov 28 2006, 08:02 PM


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Your god/landlord set about murdering the tenants of the apartment block. He told them that they should kill disobedient children and people who worked on Sundays. He also threatened them telling them if they did not do what he wanted, then they would burn in hell forever. He is not a nice person.

Kaneda,

Perhaps the disobedient children and people who work on Sundays are really the spawn of Satan. Maybe God doesn't really kill the innocent. That would be againt what the Bible says.
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Posted: Nov 28 2006, 08:22 PM


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Your god/landlord set about murdering the tenants of the apartment block. He told them that they should kill disobedient children and people who worked on Sundays. He also threatened them telling them if they did not do what he wanted, then they would burn in hell forever. He is not a nice person.


You speak about what you do not understand. Perhaps God should have just left them in Egyptian bondage? Then the sabbath would not have been instituted and thus you could not use this warped argument. Hows that sound? People were dying every day.

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Perhaps the disobedient children and people who work on Sundays are really the spawn of Satan. Maybe God doesn't really kill the innocent. That would be againt what the Bible says.


You totally miss the point again ... geeze will it ever end?

Hey Kaneda,.... perhaps I should get ready to use one of them "Exit Tactics"... What do you think? eh? eh? eh?

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Posted: Nov 29 2006, 07:43 AM


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QUOTE (kaneda @ Nov 28 2006, 05:20 PM)
Imagination. You did not use my links because you know they prove you wrong.

I don't know what else you are talking about. It does not make sense.

As to the Sun, it is a mass controlled nuclear explosion and is dying but it just takes a lot longer to die than us. It has many instabilities so runs hot and cold, giving us heat and ice ages. It also pumps out radiation which would kill us if it were not for the protective ozone layer.

You, and probably most people, have never read 'The Secret War Against the Jews',
by John Loftus.
Why do you think Abe Foxman puts Loftus and his book down?
Its because Loftus doesn't want to face the truth possibly. Its not a 'kind' truth at all.

We are all pawns in a game much bigger than most people like their playing fields to be.

Fascism is real, never died....just went sleepy bye for a while.
Operation Paperclip. Start there, but its much wider.

Israel and its people are pawns in a sadistic game for this new Global Order.
What amazes me is the profound ignorance of those who think George is a 'good guy', and 'good Christian'.
Like....would Jesus be sending armies and planes to attack a non-agressor?
Think how many lies it took to get into Iraq.

Like an Israeli Mayor said during the conflict with Hezbollah, quote: "we do the dirty work for the West". How well spoken truth just dings the bell.
Even Benjamin Netanyahu in his cameo on Bill Maher, indicated the reality of the 'proxy' war. Was it his slip of the tongue?

Yes, the unfortunate reality is that all of us are being 'played', because we're too dumb to open are eyes.
Why is this so? Because people don't want to deal with uncomfortable realities.
Its similar to the thread by 'Star Sludge' in 'Medicine' about H.I.V. methylation.
I predict that reply of mine tonight is being watched actively, and that is why I prepared for it being scrubbed.
If its there, read it. The comments I made go over everyone's head but the geneticists who know exactly of what I'm talking on that thread.

People do not think at all, because they're lazy, scared, watching the Football game and the daily lottery. They hide from the truth, the reality......because deep inside, they feel and know it.....but they don't want to hear or see it.

Yes! They always kill both the messenger and the message, because they're similar to people on this discussion forum who can't bare to think that there is something higher than their 'science' G-d,, and are 'Scared' that there might be such a 'thing'.

What's this?????? Nov. 29th? We've till Nov. 13, 2007 to square our lives proper and resolve all differences and divisions with our 'Brother'. We are all Brothers, and we must put down our weapons now!!!! Know you Brother.

Aint going to happen is it. Mighty Oil controls us, we are at its mercy. We've Oil in our veins and spirit, and the cost of that kind of spirit is very high indeed.
1 quad-drillion $$$$ per gal. is cheap in comparison to this debt.


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Posted: Nov 29 2006, 03:23 PM


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Imagination,

DUDE WTH??? Can you please simmer down a minute and explain in simple english what in the world you are talking about? science gods and november 30th 2007 and all the other ramblings aren't making any sense. So could you please take a deep breath, you can even open the shades...there more than likely isn't anyone out there watching you...and explain what in the world you are talking about.

Hopefully you havne't been taken away to the mothership before you are able to answer my question.
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Posted: Nov 30 2006, 02:44 AM


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QUOTE (Insyght)
QUOTE (kaneda)
There has been no evidence of this landlord. No one has ever seen him and there are only false stories about him so why should anyone take any notice?



Because his words are posted as signs all over the buildings notice boards... Problem is, many people doubt they are his. They think the letters are written by some of the victims in the building, attempting to dampen the flow of persecution and such they are receiving for trying to abide by the old mans wishes.

Remember gentlemen and ladies, it's an illustration...

Your illustration lacks a few details. His words are purported to be posted on the notice boards, and as you say there is no small controversy about this claim. To make things even more confusing there are thousands of other notices covering the boards and spilling out onto the walls and doors. The ceiling and floors are wallpapered with alleged communications from the "true" landlord, yet each one is from a different pretender to the title. Some of the tenants themselves have started contending that they are the landlord. Understandably, some of the more skeptical tenants have started to challenge the notion that there is a landlord at all. To them it is apparent that if there ever was a landlord, he has abandoned the building and the tenants long ago to their own devices. If he was still alive and really wanted to communicate clearly with the tenants he would call them up on the phone or else write his notices in a way that didn't appear to contradict each other and seem to be written by some sneaky tenant pretending to be him. Furthermore, evidence has been uncovered that suggests that the building, rather than being designed and constructed by anyone, is actually a natural rock formation that is the result of many centuries of rain, wind, and erosion, and of course the modifications of previous generations of tenants. The optimists in the building predict that in the future the notion of an invisible landlord will be consigned to the dust bin of history, and indeed the tenants can only improve things by letting go of such fanciful notions. The tenants who have already done so, in fact, do on average fare better than those who express a strong belief in the landlord. The floors of the building that are bastions of landlord-ists are mostly dark and dangerous. The people there are less educated and more fatalistic. Some of them openly proclaim their hope that the building will be incinerated along with most of the other tenants, while the landlord whisks them away to a much nicer luxury apartment. Thus, they abandon all pretense of attempting to better their lot in life and instead spend all of their time annoying their neighbors with a message of impending doom (for which they have no real proof). The skeptics, however, accept that this building is the only one they'll ever have, and so do what they can to make things better for the present and for future generations. They read books, not just the notices on the info boards or pamphlets which offer interpretations of the notices, but books by scientists, archaelogists, and anthropologists. Books on history, paleontology, dendrochronology, palynology, stratigraphy, ice cores, and radiometric dating techniques, as well as books on the sociology and psychology of religion.
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