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Star Sludge
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Imagination made me think about PCR so what does the inventor of the PCR think about it being used for ‘HIV’ detection?

“Kary Mullis, inventor of PCR, won a 1993 Nobel prize for his billion-dollar invention, which has become indispensable to any genetics lab. It is ironic that one of the first applications of PCR was to detect HIV, considering that Mullis himself doesn't believe his invention is capable of this. Mullis states the problem is PCR is too efficient -- it will amplify whatever DNA is in the sample, regardless of whether that DNA belongs to HIV or a contaminant. And how do you decide which part of the amplified material could be HIV and which part the contaminant(s), if you couldn't detect HIV in the sample without using PCR?”
VIRAL LOAD AND THE PCR
Why they can't be used to prove HIV infection
http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/data/chjtests5.htm

Or that this subject of HIV and AIDS drugs made him cry….
“He takes a deep breath, and I realize that on the other end of the phone, Kary Mullis, Nobel laureate, pioneer of the DNA revolution, has started to cry.”
Interview with Kary Mullis 1994
http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/data/cfmullis.htm

So again the inherent problem with measuring RT and Protease of so-called HIV is that these enzymes are also used by our own retroviruses.

“Amplification of human immunodeficiency virus type 1 (HIV) reverse transcriptase (RT) and protease (PT) sequences from plasma is difficult when HIV RNA levels are low, and it usually cannot be accomplished in samples with <1,000 HIV RNA copies/ml.”
Recovery and Analysis of Human Immunodeficiency Virus Type 1 (HIV) RNA Sequences from Plasma Samples with Low HIV RNA Levels
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlere...88714&tools=bot

“The human genome contains a wide variety of endogenous retrovirus-like sequences. The human endogenous retrovirus type K (HERV-K) family comprises 30-50 members per haploid genome in humans and is highly conserved in Old World monkeys and apes. Some proviruses are displaying open reading frames (ORF) with coding capacity for viral particles. HERV-K sequences most likely code for the previously described human teratocarcinoma-derived virus (HTDV) and correlated expression of HERV-K Gag has been demonstrated by immunoelectron microscopy studies. Protease, but not yet reverse transcriptase (RT), enzymatic activity was demonstrated for recombinant HERV-K proteins. However, an ultrasensitive RT assay revealed specific polymerase activity associated with the HTDV particles. HERV-K transcription is specifically regulated by viral long terminal repeats and RNA is expressed at low steady-state levels in a variety of human tissues and tumours.
HERV-K: The Biologically Most Active Human Endogenous Retrovirus Family.1996
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...&indexed=google

“Protease, but not yet reverse transcriptase (RT), enzymatic activity was demonstrated for recombinant HERV-K proteins.”
That study was 1996 but did say “However, an ultrasensitive RT assay revealed specific polymerase activity associated with the HTDV particles.”
So by 1998 this was being said about HERV-K and this is an example of how fast we are going, quick enough for ‘open source biology’ and everyone else with a lab to play games with all of these genes.
Yep, Imagination is right, mixing blood will mutate us.
We are heading into the De-Formation not a Reformation.

“Of the numerous endogenous retroviral elements that are present in the human genome, the abundant HERV-K family is distinct because several members are transcriptionally active and coding for biologically active proteins. A detailed phylogeny of the HERV-K family based on the partial sequence of the reverse transcriptase (RT) gene revealed a high incidence of an intact RT open reading frame within the HML-2 subgroup of HERV-K elements.”
Identification of an Active Reverse Transcriptase Enzyme Encoded by a Human Endogenous HERV-K Retrovirus
http://jvi.asm.org/cgi/content/abstract/73/3/2365

And so if Kary Mullis says HIV-1 RNA is meaningless what does this say about using the PCR when we know that there “hundreds and thousands of different HIV variants."
Do they really know what a HIV test means?

“Measurement of human immunodeficiency virus type 1 (HIV-1) plasma RNA levels using Roche AMPLICOR version 1.5 (HIV RNA) is an integral part of monitoring HIV-infected patients in industrialized countries. These assays are currently unaffordable in resource-limited settings. We investigated a reverse transcriptase (RT) assay as a less expensive alternative for measuring viral burden that quantifies RT enzyme activity in clinical plasma samples. A comparison of RT and HIV RNA assays was performed on 29 paired plasma samples from patients living in the United States and 21 paired plasma samples from patients living in Cameroon. RT levels correlated significantly with plasma HIV RNA viral loads in plasma from U.S. patients (r = 0.898; P < 0.001) and Cameroonian patients
Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV) Reverse Transcriptase Activity Correlates with HIV RNA Load
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlere...i?artid=1233909

Here’s an example of the confusion.

“A high-risk vaccinee presented after an acute febrile episode and was tested for HIV-1 infection by reverse transcriptase (RT) PCR of viral RNA.”
“Eventually, testing of all previously reactive samples by RNA RT-PCR was repeated in a quality-controlled laboratory, and confirmed the negative HIV-1 status of the individual. Interpretation This case report exemplifies the difficulties with use of viral-genome measurement as a screening test to diagnose HIV-1 infection, particularly in individuals who have ever participated in HIV-1 vaccine trials.”
Extensive evaluation of a seronegative participant in an HIV-1 vaccine trial as a result of false-positive PCR
http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=2746231

I’ll have to talk about Carnitine and introduce some completely different concepts about all diseases tomorrow and how we can help ourselves.
It’s not about Methylation but links into the jigsaw puzzle quite precisely.
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QUOTE (Star Sludge @ Nov 29 2006, 12:06 AM)
I'm wondering what they are trying to prove/improve?

"The biohacker community will emerge as DNA manipulation technology decreases in cost

The 'Hebrews' warned against the mixing of the 'blood', and it was much more than relationships that they're were speaking too.

I hope you can fathom those minds of no conscience, that will 'research' and 'mix' for the sake of profits, and or 'new ideas' where they think they can go 'one up' upon the Creator himself= G-d.
See, some people think they are the ones to decide how life should be, and they use their intelligence to suit their desires, without comprehending or caring of the consequences.

Hmmm.......this guy we hear of sometimes; is his name Lucifer? Thought he had it all figured out, wanted to be like the Master himself. There is only one Master, one G-d.
Yep, ole Lucifer wanted the 'code' to manipulate himself, and G-d sent him to Hell.
How's it work it out this Open Source Biology?
ABO
RH factors
.........................Kell Group ,, controls(late a gate!), to the family lineage antibody and antigens(the top grouping for lineage).

Ooops, secret is out now. You're letting out a monster that no one will no what to do with. Let's hope that everyone who is integrating species and other attempts to make Everything Perfect, has a perfect spirit blink.gif sad.gif .

*I know there are people who want to do 'good', and help others, but this immune system 'decoding and penetration',,,,, is insanity in the making.

When will they know to stop/how far will they go?.
*If you can't answer that question, then you have the answer already.

**For the 'watchers', this comment of mine is being 'real timed', so have a nice.
Erasing will only bring more attention.

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Imagination is opening a can of worms and showing us that open source folk are opening an ugly thing.
Thanks for the thoughtful comment, I’m just doing an analysis of what went wrong in biology because of a wrong turn in 1984 that blamed HIV for AIDS.
You’re job is harder because what is going wrong with ‘open source biology ’ is not immediately apparent and the worst is yet to happen.
I don’t care if they are watching because they need to educate themselves and wake up anyway.
If you think about it the cancer wards are full of dying people, they are being given ineffectual cures after a century of intensive and expensive research and those involved are not immune, they will die from the same diseases they pretend they can cure.
It’s like the prison warders having to work in the prison of their own making, if you believe in Satan then he has to live in his own hell.
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Best show people ‘Kell antigens’ and the point about mixing of blood.

“Kell antigens are important in transfusion medicine, autoimmune hemolytic anemia and hemolytic disease of the newborn. Individuals lacking a specific Kell antigen may develop antibodies against Kell antigens when transfused with blood containing that antigen. Subsequent blood transfusions may be marked by destruction of the new cells by these antibodies, a process known as hemolysis. People without Kell antigens(K0), must be transfused with blood from donors who are also K0 to prevent hemolysis.
Autoimmune hemolytic anemia (AIHA) occurs when the body produces an antibody against a blood group antigen on its own red blood cells. The antibodies lead to destruction of the red blood cells with resulting anemia. Similarly, a pregnant woman may develop antibodies against fetal red blood cells, resulting in destruction, anemia, and hydrops fetalis in a process known as hemolytic disease of the newborn. (HDN).”
Kell antigen system
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kell_antigen_system

These problems began with Pasteur many years ago, his paranoid vaccine cult has a lot to answer for.
It was only logical to wash hands before surgery, we have saved millions of lives with clean water, flushing toilets and fresh food. It was always the sewage workers, refrigeration mechanics and farmers who should have received the accolades. Antibiotics did a lot but now they are overused.
Vaccines are really part of a fashion due to an invention that has appeared in a very short period of human history.
They have mixed blood, caused strange drug addictions and created an almost paranoid belief that society would fall apart if we didn’t all partake in the scientific communion of sticking the latest vaccine into us.
The idea of creating antibodies was OK but putting it straight into the blood stream was idiotic.
We now have an epidemic of autism due to possible hypomethylation of the nervous system caused by Mercury in the vaccines, a researcher called Jill James uses Methylation nutrients to treat Autism.
Abnormal methionine transsulfuration metabolites in autistic children
http://www.autismwebsite.com/ari/dan/jilljames.htm
There is also an epidemic of autoimmune diseases because our immune systems are getting confused.
It should have always been done by introduction of pathogen’s to the Langherhan’s cells in the skin.

“On infection of an area of skin, the local Langerhans' cells will take up and process microbial antigens before travelling to the T-cell areas in the cortex of the draining lymph node and maturing to become fully-functional antigen presenting cells.”
Langerhans' cells
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Langerhans_cell

I’ve kept showing the similarity of HIV symptoms to autoimmune diseases and the other fact that diseases like arthritis are accompanied by our own retroviruses and so how can we tell?
The results of HIV vaccination would simply be creation of antigens to ourselves, it can never work and should never be attempted and all work on HIV vaccines should be stopped.
But what can we do?
This is not even allowed debate in Nature.

I’ll show you Carnitine.
“It can be synthesised within the body from the amino acids lysine or methionine. Vitamin C (ascorbic acid) is essential to the synthesis of carnitine. It has been speculated that during growth or pregnancy the requirement of carnitine could exceed its natural production.”
Carnitine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnitine

I take Lysine tablets and get heaps of Methionine by throwing a few Brazil nuts into muesli, I squeeze the odd lemon or have a bag of Sodium Ascorbate on hand if I’m lazy so my Carnitine should be OK.

If you look at this conference on Carnitine you’ll find they talk about Renal disease, Diabetes, Heart disease, Cancer, HIV/AIDS, Thyroid function and Alzheimer’s, it’s seems to be pretty useful stuff.
Carnitine: The Science Behind a Conditionally Essential Nutrient
http://dietary-supplements.info.nih.gov/Ne...ce_Summary.aspx

AIDS is a disease of 30 indicator diseases, pretty much the same diseases that anyone can get, things like Carnitine are important not just for AIDS patients but all of us, why are we waiting?

“No toxicity related to L-carnitine therapy was observed and dose reductions were not necessary. In HIV-1-infected subjects, long-term infusions of L-carnitine produced substantial increases in the rate and absolute counts of CD4 and, to a lesser degree, of CD8 lymphocytes. This was paralleled by a reduced frequency of apoptotic cells of both subgroups and a decline in the levels of ceramide. No clinically relevant change of HIV-1 viremia was observed.”
Effect of L-Carnitine on Human Immunodeficiency Virus-1 Infection-Associated Apoptosis
http://www.bloodjournal.org/cgi/content/ab.../10/3817?ck=nck

I think it’s funny that Carnitine raised the CD4 count but “No clinically relevant change of HIV-1 viremia was observed”, that kind of means HIV-1 has nothing to do with the loss of CD4 cells, doesn’t it?

And Methylation nutrients also help synthesize Carnitine, it’s all helical and circular.

“The stimulating effect of vitamin B12 and donors in methyl groups on the carnitine synthesis seems to result from activation of methylation.”
The effect of methylation on the carnitine synthesis
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...9&dopt=Abstract

When you look at Carnitine and the effect of AIDS drugs on body levels of it the outcome is not good.
So why do we use these treatments?
Because that is what we have been told to do.

“Serum free and total carnitine, acylcarnitines, methionine and lysine were significantly lower in HIV-infected children compared with our reference values for similar ages.”
Low serum carnitine in HIV-infected children on antiretroviral treatment
http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=15138529

“Reduced levels of serum carnitines (3-hydroxy-4-N-trimethyl-ammonio-butanoate) are found in most patients treated with zidovudine.”
“Our data indicate that carnitine deficiency occurs in PBMC from patients with advanced AIDS, despite normal serum concentrations. The increase in cellular carnitine content strongly improved lymphocyte proliferative responsiveness to mitogens. Because carnitine status is an important contributing factor to immune function in patients with advanced AIDS, we therefore believe that L-carnitine supplementation could have a role as a complementary therapy for HIV-infected individuals.”
Carnitine depletion in peripheral blood mononuclear cells from patients with AIDS: effect of oral L-carnitine.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...3&dopt=Abstract

“A severe dose limiting axonal peripheral neuropathy may develop in subjects on treatment with the nucleoside analogues didanosine (ddl), zalcitabine (ddC), and stavudine (d4T). The impairment of mitrochondrial DNA synthesis is crucial to the pathogenesis of this disorder although other mechanisms have not been ruled out. The depletion of acetyl-carnitine, which regulates the metabolism and function of peripheral nerves could contribute to the neurotoxicity of these compounds.”
“CONCLUSIONS: Our results demonstrate that subjects who developed peripheral neuropathy while staying on treatment with ddl, ddC and d4T had acetyl-carnitine deficiency. The normal levels of total carnitine in the study group appear to indicate the specificity of the defect and rule out coexisting relevant nutritional problems. The critical role of acetyl-carnitine for the metabolism and function of the peripheral nerves supports the view that the acetyl-carnitine deficiency found in these subjects may contribute to the neurotoxicity of ddl, ddC and d4T, even though the interference with mitochondrial DNA synthesis is regarded as the main cause of their toxicity.”
Acetyl-carnitine deficiency in AIDS patients with neurotoxicity on treatment with antiretroviral nucleoside analogues
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...5&dopt=Abstract

I’ve shown how Hyperthyroid symptoms are similar to so-called HIV infection and that Hyperthyroid Autoimmune diseases cross react with HIV tests, here Carnitine stops Hyperthyroid.

“In the randomized trial, we showed that 2 and 4 grams per day of oral L-carnitine are capable of reversing hyperthyroid symptoms (and biochemical changes in the hyperthyroid direction) as well as preventing (or minimizing) the appearance of hyperthyroid symptoms (or biochemical changes in the hyperthyroid direction).”
“A very recent clinical observation proved the usefulness of L-carnitine in the most serious form of hyperthyroidism: thyroid storm. Since hyperthyroidism impoverishes the tissue deposits of carnitine, there is a rationale for using L-carnitine at least in certain clinical settings.”
Effects of carnitine on thyroid hormone action
http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=16354289

But this gets more exciting and can be applied to reversing brain aging as in Alzheimer’s if you add in Melatonin.

“After 25-month-old mice received basal diet together with 300 mg/l acetyl L-carnitine in the drinking water for 8 weeks, these levels were fully restored to those found in younger animals. A partial restoration was found when old animals received basal diet supplemented with 200 ppm melatonin in the diet. Levels of mRNA (messenger RNA) for nNOS were unchanged following these treatments implying translational regulation of nNOS activity. Behavioral indices indicative of exploratory behavior were also depressed in aged animals. Dietary supplementation with melatonin or acetyl L-carnitine partially reversed these changes. These findings suggest that dietary supplementation cannot merely arrest but indeed reverse some age-related increases in markers of oxidative and inflammatory events occurring with the cortex.”
Reversal of biochemical and behavioral parameters of brain aging by melatonin and acetyl L-carnitine
http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=14027917

So why don’t we do this for HIV as well?

“During the natural history of HIV-1 disease, serum melatonin levels are progressively reduced. This reduction may be related to the impairment of Th1 immunoresponses.”
Reduction of serum melatonin levels in HIV-1-infected individuals' parallel disease progression
http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=15324440

I take two 50mg tablets of B6 a day to help my sleep along with some Magnesium to absorb it, I think B6 deficiency (another Methylation nutrient) may be a big factor in the loss of Melatonin.

“The data obtained showed a significant increase in melatonin levels after pyridoxine administration in the pyridoxine night group”
Pineal response after pyridoxine test in children
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...st_uids=8872867

Because B6 also affects a heap of enzymes and also T-cell function.

“It appears that vitamin B6 is an essential nutrient for maintenance of normal T-cell function in vivo.”
The effect of vitamin B6 deficiency on cytotoxic immune responses of T cells, antibodies, and natural killer cells, and phagocytosis by macrophages.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...8&dopt=Abstract

Whatever you think, we are not up with potential treatments and I can’t see any logic in many of our drug treatments if they deplete the very things that are needed for the immune system to operate properly.
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If your a fan of Louis Pasteur then I’d recommend a look at Bechamp his peer who Pasteur pinched many ideas off.
Antoine Bechamp
http://www.bechamp.org/

Then there’s Gaston who made such a powerful light microscope that I still wonder why everyone hasn’t got it in their labs? You can read his story here.
The Persecution and Trial of Gaston Naessens
http://www.banned-books.com/truth-seeker/1...1_2/ts212h.html

Even better if you go to Gaston’s site you find Canadians blocked from even looking, who says science is open and free?
Gaston Naessens
http://www.cerbe.com/

Then from Brisbane where I live my local University of Queensland, (the people who made me suspicious about HIV/AIDS in the first place because they had the ‘AIDS War’ in their library) have found nanobes.
Dr Philippa Uwins' Nanobes
http://www.microscopy-uk.org.uk/index.html.../nanointro.html

So it’s apparent that we are crawling with all sorts of things and they may be Pleomorphic, is that a word of heresy?

I have different views about the immune system, when my skin peeled off because my immune system was attacking it I had a barrage of blood tests, urine tests etc. They found nothing except a raised level of neutrophils and an enlarged liver, the effects were spectacular though.
If I had been tested too much they could have blamed some pathogen but it was just chemical exposure.
I’m going to veer off for a moment and mention Ebola since that gets people excited.
Ebola and marburg are viruses that attack our endothelial cells and cause bleeding but if you look closely at the literature it’s the prolonged release of Nitric Oxide from our white blood cells causing most of the damage.
We just get burnt by our own acid.

I was watching a show on Ebola one day and was horrified as the highly paid virus warriors in their protective white suits just put a Congolese lady into a corner with a bowl of water and watched her die.
What did they expect to happen?
So I want you to think carefully about what we are doing here, it’s actually complete negligence based on our paranoid belief system of pathogens.
I believe that Ebola is only occurring in areas of low Selenium and Iodine combined with low protein diets and scurvy.
We could save people with a truckload of Brazil nuts, Lysine tablets, Lemons and maybe a few cans of Tuna or Salmon and a dash of iodized salt.
I’m showing you different causes of hemorrhage.

“Symptoms of iodine deficiency in piglets born to iodine deficient sows are thickened skin, puffy necks, hairlessness, and bloated appearance. Some of the piglets are born dead, others are alive but weak and usually die within a few hours. At necropsy, the thyroid is enlarged and hemorrhagic.”
IODINE FOR ANIMALS
http://www.saltinstitute.org/47q.html

“Selenium has an anticlotting effect, whereas selenium deficiency has a proclotting or thrombotic effect. It is also well documented that extreme dietary selenium deficiency, which is almost never seen in humans, has been associated with hemorrhagic effects in animals.”
Computational genomic analysis of hemorrhagic fever viruses. Viral selenoproteins as a potential factor in pathogenesis.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...3&dopt=Abstract

“Acute infantile haemorrhagic oedema: measles vaccination as possible triggering factor.”
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...1&dopt=Abstract

“The endothelial cell tropism of measles virus (MV) plays an important role for the pathogenesis of acute measles and complications following the infection. Infected endothelial cells may decisively contribute to the virally induced leukopenia, participate at the acute postinfectious measles encephalitis, and may support the entry of MV in the CNS. The molecular basis underlying clinical findings of endothelial alterations during acute and haemorrhagic measles, or CNS-complications are widely unknown.”
Investigation of the interaction of human endothelial cells with attenuated and virulent measles viruses
http://www.zv.uni-wuerzburg.de/forschungsb...ion%20DFG-E.htm

This study from Israel shows my point, why was “excess non-specific mortality was reported” following a measles vaccination?

“Following vaccination of children using high-titre live measles vaccine, excess non-specific mortality was reported, particularly among females. Since vaccination with live measles virus results in a temporary depression of the immune response to other antigens, the female predominance in subsequent non-measles mortality may be due to sex differences in response to live measles vaccines.”
Sex Differences in the Humoral Antibody Response to Live Measles Vaccine in Young Adults
http://ije.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/23/5/1078

So why did this outbreak of Marburg appear in a hospital, shouldn’t it have come out from the jungle like we all believe it should?

“The disease may have surfaced as early as March 2004 in a crowded children's ward. A doctor noted that a child, who subsequently died, was displaying signs of hemorrhagic fever. By October, the death rate on the ward went from three to five children a week to three to five a day.”
Marburg virus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marburg_virus

There was a massive vaccination campaign with live measles vaccine prior to the Marburg outbreak.

“The Angolan government on 21 April launched a month-long campaign to immunise seven million children against measles. 8th May 2003”
Huge measles vaccination campaign
http://www.actsa.org/Angola/apm/apm0908.htm

I’m not saying we stop these vaccine campaigns though I think mandatory vaccinations are an infringement of our rights and no governments should have authority to invade our bodies because that is sacred space.
It’s how we do this, we need a fundamental shift in thinking, if live vaccines have viruses that damage endothelial tissues just as a normal virus we catch does then why are we not warning people?
When a live virus vaccine is given the normal dietary things that protect us from viruses such as Vitamin C and Selenium should be given at the same time.
I see it like building the castle walls against the pathogens and bombing us with drugs is similar to nuking everyone inside the castle walls.
This would stop “excess non-specific mortality” and we’re talking people dying from vaccines here.

A little over 60 years ago the German schools were teaching Hollow Earth Theory and the Eugenics movement culminated in millions of dead at the hands of Hitler.
It was the German psychiatrists who suggested to Hitler that sterilization of handicapped people was a good idea and then maybe removing them for good was a better idea. Hitler was following his scientists and took it further.
We learnt a lot from that, I hope we did anyway.
The Eugenics movement turned into the Genetics movement.
I’m grateful for all their data, I’ve used all of it to write this, I’m also aware I use the carnage of animal studies, I also quote from the misery of thousands of patients, some who are now dead.
I’m hoping that we start learning from our mistakes, debating HIV/AIDS in public would be a start.
There is no indication that HIV/AIDS science will continue throughout this century, it is rapidly becoming outdated.
I swap emails with HIV tagged folk who have worked out that if they get better and retest they can come up negative.
They are also onto all of the contradictions of HIV, dropping their drug treatments and getting on with life.

The researchers involved are also rebelling.
This was about Nevirapine, now being handed out to women in Africa.

“Federal officials involved in a U.S.-funded study in Uganda endangered the lives of hundreds of patients testing an AIDS drug because of careless and negligent research practices, a government whistleblower said Tuesday.
Dr. Jonathan Fishbein said officials at the National Institutes of Health overlooked safety problems with the drug, which was being used to protect babies in Africa from HIV infection during birth.
The consequences of their failure "have grave and sometimes fatal implications for the lives of real patients," Fishbein said at a hearing before a panel of scientists from the independent Institute of Medicine.”
Whistleblower Says U.S. Bungled AIDS Study
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,143300,00.html

And these recent studies are going against all we believe.

“THE widespread belief that the latest drugs for fighting Aids are reducing death rates has been confounded by a huge study covering 10 years of treatment which involved more than 22,000 patients in Europe and North America.”
Anti-retro drugs fail to increase HIV patients’ lifespan
http://www.thebusinessonline.com/Document....8D-2B4C704D9AC7

“Presenting HIV RNA level predicts the rate of CD4 cell decline only minimally in untreated persons. Other factors, as yet undefined, likely drive CD4 cell losses in HIV infection. These findings have implications for treatment decisions in HIV infection and for understanding the pathogenesis of progressive immune deficiency.”
Predictive value of plasma HIV RNA level on rate of CD4 T-cell decline in untreated HIV infection.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...t_uids=17003398

Today is AIDS day, it is ‘celebrating’ 25 years of AIDS.
My government will put red lights on the buildings in town, the AIDS groups are organising discos, I’ll have to dodge the stalls, I’m already telling some shops that selling the pink ribbons is quite offensive.
Last year Indian HIV positives cut theirs up in protest.
But this really started with 5 gay men.

“In 1981 five young men, all "active homosexuals" who were "previously healthy", were diagnosed as having Pneumocystis carinii pneumonia (PCP), which was then believed to be a rare disease caused by a protozoan. Shortly after this a couple of dozen men, also active homosexuals, were diagnosed as having Kaposi's sarcoma (KS), which was then believed to be a rare form of cancer. Public health workers and physicians 'assumed' that there must be a connection, and strained mightily to find one. One term bandied about was "Gay Related Immune Deficiency", or GRID.”
AIDS: A Death Cult
http://kimbannon.com/docs/John_Lauritsen_Sept_2004.html

The rest has been part of our belief system blaming everyday diseases on one retrovirus, using the wrong drugs and also scaring people to death.
We need to move on and quickly before this gets worse.
Right now a campaign to get mandatory HIV testing for all women across the world is happening, this is all of us involved now, these are your kids, wives, girlfriends who will get snagged into the HIV net and they will suffer if you all don’t do something about it.
The gays already have seen it happen to them.
I’m just telling you what will occur if we don’t have the courage to say we made a mistake many years ago and do something to fix it.

Love yas all.
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QUOTE (Star Sludge @ Nov 27 2006, 10:32 PM)

I guess my point is that even if HIV was a man made retrovirus then methylation stops it. I still think it's endogenous.
Open source biology sounds scary, it looks like an arrogant excuse to do anything with living things that comes to mind, chimeras would be the result.
It really seems like anarchy playing games with genes if I understood the 'movement' in the right way?


Well there may be more chaos in deciding who's kids are who's but...who cares if it will just make some folks well again...nuthin wrong with the chimeras I have seen.

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QUOTE (Star Sludge @ Nov 15 2006, 07:51 PM)

The pregnant lady who unfortunately got caught up in the HIV net and chose to abort was told by me to eat Brazil Nuts to lower her viral load, this is because they are a food and a cheap way of getting Selenium in the form of Methionine.
She’s OK, shocked of course and trying to fix her liver up after being given a lot of drugs

Do be extremely careful with your "medical " advice...your nutritional knowledge and ect.
There can be dire consequences to giving health advice, as you most probably already are aware. I heard of a fellow who was jailed for having said he had developed nutritional and herbal cures to AIDS, Cancer ect.
I have a paper somewhere in my files on the person.
I find it incredibly un-just and immoral that he would be imprisoned. Just beware of the potential outcome of advisement and healthful claims, (as a potential friend) I would hate to see harm come to a helpmate like yourself.
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Hi Tikay, Been busy looking at Cancer studies....

That is a good point, I'm not sure how a case like that would go though.
I'm sure a judge would be annoyed at prosecution trying to find fault with advice saying eat 4 Brazil nuts a day for Selenium.
Then there's the long part where I'd have to show evidence of why Brazil nuts in theory can lower viral load because of Selenomethionine content.
And there's also the possibility that the lady given the 'Brazil nuts' advice would be interested in starting her own legal action for an incorrect HIV diagnosis.
I think no one would go near it with a 'barge pole' so to speak.

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I thought HIV could'nt be cured blink.gif unsure.gif
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QUOTE (Star Sludge @ Nov 30 2006, 05:40 AM)
Imagination is opening a can of worms and showing us that open source folk are opening an ugly thing.
Thanks for the thoughtful comment, I’m just doing an analysis of what went wrong in biology because of a wrong turn in 1984 that blamed HIV for AIDS.
You’re job is harder because what is going wrong with ‘open source biology ’ is not immediately apparent and the worst is yet to happen.
I don’t care if they are watching because they need to educate themselves and wake up anyway.
If you think about it the cancer wards are full of dying people, they are being given ineffectual cures after a century of intensive and expensive research and those involved are not immune, they will die from the same diseases they pretend they can cure.
It’s like the prison warders having to work in the prison of their own making, if you believe in Satan then he has to live in his own hell.
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Best show people ‘Kell antigens’ and the point about mixing of blood.

“Kell antigens are important in transfusion medicine, autoimmune hemolytic anemia and hemolytic disease of the newborn. Individuals lacking a specific Kell antigen may develop antibodies against Kell antigens when transfused with blood containing that antigen. Subsequent blood transfusions may be marked by destruction of the new cells by these antibodies, a process known as hemolysis. People without Kell antigens(K0), must be transfused with blood from donors who are also K0 to prevent hemolysis.
Autoimmune hemolytic anemia (AIHA) occurs when the body produces an antibody against a blood group antigen on its own red blood cells. The antibodies lead to destruction of the red blood cells with resulting anemia. Similarly, a pregnant woman may develop antibodies against fetal red blood cells, resulting in destruction, anemia, and hydrops fetalis in a process known as hemolytic disease of the newborn. (HDN).”
Kell antigen system
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kell_antigen_system

These problems began with Pasteur many years ago, his paranoid vaccine cult has a lot to answer for.
It was only logical to wash hands before surgery, we have saved millions of lives with clean water, flushing toilets and fresh food. It was always the sewage workers, refrigeration mechanics and farmers who should have received the accolades. Antibiotics did a lot but now they are overused.
Vaccines are really part of a fashion due to an invention that has appeared in a very short period of human history.
They have mixed blood, caused strange drug addictions and created an almost paranoid belief that society would fall apart if we didn’t all partake in the scientific communion of sticking the latest vaccine into us.
The idea of creating antibodies was OK but putting it straight into the blood stream was idiotic.
We now have an epidemic of autism due to possible hypomethylation of the nervous system caused by Mercury in the vaccines, a researcher called Jill James uses Methylation nutrients to treat Autism.
Abnormal methionine transsulfuration metabolites in autistic children
http://www.autismwebsite.com/ari/dan/jilljames.htm
There is also an epidemic of autoimmune diseases because our immune systems are getting confused.
It should have always been done by introduction of pathogen’s to the Langherhan’s cells in the skin.

“On infection of an area of skin, the local Langerhans' cells will take up and process microbial antigens before travelling to the T-cell areas in the cortex of the draining lymph node and maturing to become fully-functional antigen presenting cells.”
Langerhans' cells
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Langerhans_cell

I’ve kept showing the similarity of HIV symptoms to autoimmune diseases and the other fact that diseases like arthritis are accompanied by our own retroviruses and so how can we tell?
The results of HIV vaccination would simply be creation of antigens to ourselves, it can never work and should never be attempted and all work on HIV vaccines should be stopped.
But what can we do?
This is not even allowed debate in Nature.

I’ll show you Carnitine.
“It can be synthesised within the body from the amino acids lysine or methionine. Vitamin C (ascorbic acid) is essential to the synthesis of carnitine. It has been speculated that during growth or pregnancy the requirement of carnitine could exceed its natural production.”
Carnitine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnitine

I take Lysine tablets and get heaps of Methionine by throwing a few Brazil nuts into muesli, I squeeze the odd lemon or have a bag of Sodium Ascorbate on hand if I’m lazy so my Carnitine should be OK.

If you look at this conference on Carnitine you’ll find they talk about Renal disease, Diabetes, Heart disease, Cancer, HIV/AIDS, Thyroid function and Alzheimer’s, it’s seems to be pretty useful stuff.
Carnitine: The Science Behind a Conditionally Essential Nutrient
http://dietary-supplements.info.nih.gov/Ne...ce_Summary.aspx

AIDS is a disease of 30 indicator diseases, pretty much the same diseases that anyone can get, things like Carnitine are important not just for AIDS patients but all of us, why are we waiting?

“No toxicity related to L-carnitine therapy was observed and dose reductions were not necessary. In HIV-1-infected subjects, long-term infusions of L-carnitine produced substantial increases in the rate and absolute counts of CD4 and, to a lesser degree, of CD8 lymphocytes. This was paralleled by a reduced frequency of apoptotic cells of both subgroups and a decline in the levels of ceramide. No clinically relevant change of HIV-1 viremia was observed.”
Effect of L-Carnitine on Human Immunodeficiency Virus-1 Infection-Associated Apoptosis
http://www.bloodjournal.org/cgi/content/ab.../10/3817?ck=nck

I think it’s funny that Carnitine raised the CD4 count but “No clinically relevant change of HIV-1 viremia was observed”, that kind of means HIV-1 has nothing to do with the loss of CD4 cells, doesn’t it?

And Methylation nutrients also help synthesize Carnitine, it’s all helical and circular.

“The stimulating effect of vitamin B12 and donors in methyl groups on the carnitine synthesis seems to result from activation of methylation.”
The effect of methylation on the carnitine synthesis
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...9&dopt=Abstract

When you look at Carnitine and the effect of AIDS drugs on body levels of it the outcome is not good.
So why do we use these treatments?
Because that is what we have been told to do.

“Serum free and total carnitine, acylcarnitines, methionine and lysine were significantly lower in HIV-infected children compared with our reference values for similar ages.”
Low serum carnitine in HIV-infected children on antiretroviral treatment
http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=15138529

“Reduced levels of serum carnitines (3-hydroxy-4-N-trimethyl-ammonio-butanoate) are found in most patients treated with zidovudine.”
“Our data indicate that carnitine deficiency occurs in PBMC from patients with advanced AIDS, despite normal serum concentrations. The increase in cellular carnitine content strongly improved lymphocyte proliferative responsiveness to mitogens. Because carnitine status is an important contributing factor to immune function in patients with advanced AIDS, we therefore believe that L-carnitine supplementation could have a role as a complementary therapy for HIV-infected individuals.”
Carnitine depletion in peripheral blood mononuclear cells from patients with AIDS: effect of oral L-carnitine.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...3&dopt=Abstract

“A severe dose limiting axonal peripheral neuropathy may develop in subjects on treatment with the nucleoside analogues didanosine (ddl), zalcitabine (ddC), and stavudine (d4T). The impairment of mitrochondrial DNA synthesis is crucial to the pathogenesis of this disorder although other mechanisms have not been ruled out. The depletion of acetyl-carnitine, which regulates the metabolism and function of peripheral nerves could contribute to the neurotoxicity of these compounds.”
“CONCLUSIONS: Our results demonstrate that subjects who developed peripheral neuropathy while staying on treatment with ddl, ddC and d4T had acetyl-carnitine deficiency. The normal levels of total carnitine in the study group appear to indicate the specificity of the defect and rule out coexisting relevant nutritional problems. The critical role of acetyl-carnitine for the metabolism and function of the peripheral nerves supports the view that the acetyl-carnitine deficiency found in these subjects may contribute to the neurotoxicity of ddl, ddC and d4T, even though the interference with mitochondrial DNA synthesis is regarded as the main cause of their toxicity.”
Acetyl-carnitine deficiency in AIDS patients with neurotoxicity on treatment with antiretroviral nucleoside analogues
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...5&dopt=Abstract

I’ve shown how Hyperthyroid symptoms are similar to so-called HIV infection and that Hyperthyroid Autoimmune diseases cross react with HIV tests, here Carnitine stops Hyperthyroid.

“In the randomized trial, we showed that 2 and 4 grams per day of oral L-carnitine are capable of reversing hyperthyroid symptoms (and biochemical changes in the hyperthyroid direction) as well as preventing (or minimizing) the appearance of hyperthyroid symptoms (or biochemical changes in the hyperthyroid direction).”
“A very recent clinical observation proved the usefulness of L-carnitine in the most serious form of hyperthyroidism: thyroid storm. Since hyperthyroidism impoverishes the tissue deposits of carnitine, there is a rationale for using L-carnitine at least in certain clinical settings.”
Effects of carnitine on thyroid hormone action
http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=16354289

But this gets more exciting and can be applied to reversing brain aging as in Alzheimer’s if you add in Melatonin.

“After 25-month-old mice received basal diet together with 300 mg/l acetyl L-carnitine in the drinking water for 8 weeks, these levels were fully restored to those found in younger animals. A partial restoration was found when old animals received basal diet supplemented with 200 ppm melatonin in the diet. Levels of mRNA (messenger RNA) for nNOS were unchanged following these treatments implying translational regulation of nNOS activity. Behavioral indices indicative of exploratory behavior were also depressed in aged animals. Dietary supplementation with melatonin or acetyl L-carnitine partially reversed these changes. These findings suggest that dietary supplementation cannot merely arrest but indeed reverse some age-related increases in markers of oxidative and inflammatory events occurring with the cortex.”
Reversal of biochemical and behavioral parameters of brain aging by melatonin and acetyl L-carnitine
http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=14027917

So why don’t we do this for HIV as well?

“During the natural history of HIV-1 disease, serum melatonin levels are progressively reduced. This reduction may be related to the impairment of Th1 immunoresponses.”
Reduction of serum melatonin levels in HIV-1-infected individuals' parallel disease progression
http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=15324440

I take two 50mg tablets of B6 a day to help my sleep along with some Magnesium to absorb it, I think B6 deficiency (another Methylation nutrient) may be a big factor in the loss of Melatonin.

“The data obtained showed a significant increase in melatonin levels after pyridoxine administration in the pyridoxine night group”
Pineal response after pyridoxine test in children
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...st_uids=8872867

Because B6 also affects a heap of enzymes and also T-cell function.

“It appears that vitamin B6 is an essential nutrient for maintenance of normal T-cell function in vivo.”
The effect of vitamin B6 deficiency on cytotoxic immune responses of T cells, antibodies, and natural killer cells, and phagocytosis by macrophages.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...8&dopt=Abstract

Whatever you think, we are not up with potential treatments and I can’t see any logic in many of our drug treatments if they deplete the very things that are needed for the immune system to operate properly.

Thankyou 'Star Sludge'.

All the message boards that I've been too have someone who 'Eagerly Defends' the standard theories of origin and the 'functional aspects' of H.I.V.

None, can explain how Mice were made without any Immunce System a few years back. They seem to get 'upset' when I speak about this, and come up with:
"they were cloned".
Me: Cloned from what. What has no immune system to clone from?
Them: Silence ph34r.gif ph34r.gif .

That 'P-53' Gene is probably disabled or 'X'd out.
The Lymphocyte-Phagocyte mechanism is also probably disabled thru the Dendritic cells and Calcium Channels.

*They don't know what they are doing, that is true. They will mess things up for generations. Someone will. Some sickopathic will steal the technology and manipulate it for whatever their fanciful reasons tell them too.

'Kell Group'. Wow! Kell or Hell, it(what is 'It'= Identity) was locked in for a good reason. We should not be 'Mixing Identity'.
'The Devil is in the Details of Un-Locking the Immune System'
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but if someone make the nanotechnology able to regenerate the body with the this idea the HIV different strains will be one by one be taken out by the regeneration of the white t cells and able to control the rate of regeneration to the point of the nano's become reinforced white t cells that cannot be attack by the HIV virus the only problem is that the nano's will probably attack the white t cells with the lymphocytes and destroy them in the process.
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QUOTE (tikay @ Dec 9 2006, 04:52 AM)
Well there may be more chaos in deciding who's kids are who's but...
who cares if it will just make some folks well again...nuthin wrong with the chimeras I have seen.

Peace~
And Please!
Keep up the good work...it may get into the right minds and be of great use in time. wink.gif

Sorry for delayed response I have been away...obviously rolleyes.gif

I knew you were a pathetic fake from the response you gave in 'creation' section.

You should get yourself some 'Gene Vaccines', because you 'so believe' in this 'good'.

You should do some thinking about the future generations that will bear the horror of playing in 'G-d's Code.

The link I gave in another thread, quotes a research scientist who is beside himself because of what 'he knows' will happen in the second generation.

*You! What is your motive, Profit?! Protection of an experiment>>>?

You know nothing of what you do.

Do Not get on my threads about the coming Comet! I am on a short time line to stop it's coming.



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I'm sorry but what comet is coming I'm a bit slow on what is happening and and

i cant type fast cannot spell very well but why are you talking about the end of the

world or something huh.gif
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any way what has the comet got to do with HIV and how that Methylation can cure HIV
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QUOTE (Imagination @ Jan 5 2007, 02:55 AM)
Do Not get on my threads about the coming Comet! I am on a short time line to stop it's coming.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

What a crank.

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Can please answer the question that how does methylation cure HIV mad.gif
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